Zip29

What a crock, sorry people are out of work but we are not all expected to go bury our heads in the sand are we?

how is it bad taste, it gives a clear view of where the $$$ are at that were all after, if people who are out of work dont want to know then they dont have to read the thread! this is not a communist country, do as you please.

its a good thread.

rotorhead
 

what do you guys get paid?

£10,000 per month take home.
+ house, utilities, pension, etc.

I should have added that this is for flying 200 hours per year on helicopters in the ME.

offshore oil platforms abseilor, 147 nights a year offshore, the rest is time off,

take home monthly £3400

was planning on spending it on flying training, but bit more wary now!

2 weeks on 3 weeks of rotation in North Sea

Aer Arann year 2 Captain good month 5500 euro net bad month 4800 euro net , approx 60 hour per month , LOL and roster 5/3/5/2:O

Hi wilky,

are you a bit more wary now due to some of the salaries advertised, or due to the global decline in jobs worldwide.

Your working offshore which gives you lots of time off to allow you to get your ATPL whilst still making good money. Its a win win situation. You might land lucky and get a flying job immediately, or have to stay in your curent rope access job.

I took my first flying lesson 20 years ago, never looked back.

Crack on and get studying !!. Good luck.

Rgds.

Khaosai,

Thats what I thought win, win. I started my PPL last year and planned to get all my training done in my 3 weeks off each trip where possible, I'm just more wary of climate. I would expect a drop in my current salary if I made it into the RHS in the future, I'm not one that would aim for jets straight away, I would do anything to start and get flying experience and hours and work my way up through the ranks as such. I'm 28 but I am already on my 3rd career change, 5 years as a royal marine, 4 years as a police officer and now in my 3rd year of offshore inspection/rope access so a fair bit of life experience for my age. I'm hoping that would stand me in good stead for my first aviation job. Flying as always been my passion, as i'm sure it is for most who take on this monumental task of getting the ATPL.

I can only go of what I read on PPRUNE but to me it seems a huge investment of time and money to be let in for a hell of a ride to get the first job, all these different schemes for Ryanair, easyjet etc, maybe in the end I will keep flying as a hobby. I really did want a career as a pilot but I will be riding this out until I see that things improve. I'm more than willing to do whatever it takes to get a job, my last 3 were not walk in jobs, but security in my life is a big thing. I'm also aware that there is other airlines/operators out there that are not running these cadet schemes, but realistically by the time i'm finished training I would guess I would be around 32 years old, with all the spring chickens newly qualified, and experienced pilots with hours on type being recruited again(hopefully for you guys) I just dont think I would stand a chance!

Any way I am aware i'm drifting off thread so will knock this on the head, but i'll keep my ears to the ground and assess the situation as I go. £60k+ of debt no siree, not with the risks involved, maybe back in my naive youth it would have been an option before, but had my fingers burnt with debt years ago, and its not a nice feeling!

All the best to the guys qualified and trying to find work. I really hope you get something soon.

Wilky

I'm in the same position as you, desperate to start training, but you seem to really have your head screwed on, unlike alot of people jumping straight in.

My take home as cabin crew is rubbish, 1100 pm, some benefits, this will never fund flight training, i have no option but to take a loan.

Some salaries on here are Huge, even our cpts dont get that much...or so they say.

Hi Wilky,

its a difficult call for sure. It seems your applying commonsense, which is a good thing.

I wish you well in the future, i know how tough it can be.

If i was doing it all again, i would have aimed to minimise costs by heading to the States, get the licence and build hours. They had career development loans back then, not sure if they still exist tho.

As an aside you might know a few mates of mine, one ex RM for 22 yrs and another working rope access in the north sea !. Both Scottish lads.

Rgds.

Khaosai, Thanks :ok:

Wilky
 

Wilky,

Just a thought and I speak as another mid-life career changer but if you do end up in the low cost sector (which unless you're very lucky you probably will) then from the point of view of work/life balance I don't think you will be able to match your current employment. I get 108 guaranteed days off a year, you get over 200! I do probably also get a further 30-50 stby days where I often don't get called. Flying is more enjoyable than many jobs on an hour for hour basis but after a while it isn't more enjoyable than taking your family out for a bike ride or watching movies or chilling out at home!

You are also currently earning about the same as someone who is about 4-5 years into a typical flying career (Unless you land a dream ticket like BA from day 1)

I think a job that gives you so much time to do what you want is quite appealling! Just a thought - not sure if it helps.

Desk-pilot

Wilky
 

Hi Wilky,
Just like you, I spent many years offshore..unsure whether to chuck in a good job for the uncertainties of an aviation career. Well I took the plunge and have never looked back. The offshore environment will actually stand you in good stead in an airline.
I get to sit in the front of a B744 now, but still miss the crack in the tea shack! The offshore game is for young men...you don't want to be swinging off a derrick in your 50s!
Oh yeah....take home £4700 to £5300 plus all the trimmings and never get my hands dirty.

A320 SFO, Europe, year 8.

January - 67 hrs, 48 sectors, net with flight pay and per diems was 2610 €

February - 0 hrs, three weeks spent on last year's unused anual leave, one week groundschool, net 2170€

The 'taking the plunge' diversion that this thread has taken also interests me.

I'm 33 and play records on the radio for a living. Like flying, it's something that I always wanted to do and at my level it's well paid considering that you're only actually 'on-air' for a few hours. That said I've probably hit the glass ceiling now at 40-50k pa, there's sod all job security and the media industry is simply imploding at the moment so who the hell knows whether I'll still be earning in 3 months, let alone 3 years. Like your job, there aren't likely to be too many opportunities locally so having to up sticks and go sniff out work somewhere else is a distinct probability in my game.

I always felt that getting my finger out my arse and getting an ATPL and a nice gig flying jets would the answer to my long term prayers. Perhaps it's not that much different - I spend hours each day in front of a few LCD screens driven by a computer that does all the thinking that I used to do surrounded by lots of flashing lights and buttons, talking into a mic now and again and working with people who moan about how good it used to be! ;)

And with the same level of job security too!! At least if radio boots you, you can always get a job spinning the decks at weddings and bar mitzvahs!! :ok:

Yearly gross income around 50 to 60k Euro, blockhours none, 4 hours standby per week but no flying duty planned as the company doesn't hold an AOC anymore. Another 20k i'm suing my employer for and it looks very good indeed. FO year 9 with dba. Oh, and once i have my final payout (depending on when at least 300k Euro) i have a guaranteed job at air berlin if i really want that, allready have the signed contract.

TRI/SFI ATR 42 /72 ,Europe, 5000-6000 eur net.Usually 8 days off per month and 9 weeks annual leave .Every month 4-6 sim sessions in TLS.

VS SFO A340
c. £6100 pcm net + per diems
Around 850 hrs p.a.
12-14 days hols per month
+ emoluments (incl Virgin Active !) and ID90's!

So you are on a gross salary of over £110000 a year as an SFO at Virgin then. Is this really correct? That is an awesome wage but I just can't believe it! If it is true, I have a new target airline!!!!

£800ish pcm as a part time Servisair ramp rat.

:D