Jet4You Roaster in Casablanca
 

Hi everybody,first time in the Forum!
Does anybody knows how is the roaster like in Casablanca? Can you ask for blocks of days off? I might be going there soon

Worst Roaster from June to end Sept, temperatures up to 40'c. More of a gentle simmer for the rest of the year.

Roster J4U
 

The roster is terrible. Youll be stuck in Casa all time except the two time 4 days off pr month.
All other days where you are not flying, you are on Blanc days. Meaning standby from 0600 until 2100. Ewen when you need rest acording to the rules.
Frederic Smet is trying to change it to 6 days on, 2 days off, 7 days on 2 days off.
The most hated man in Marocco.

Any links for Flight Crew jobs? none on the website.

Recruiting was done previously through Contractair, PARC also had a finger in the pie, and AFAIK the finger was a bit deeper buried, beware! same job less dosh. (for you :hmm: )

Find another place to work. There are no communication what so ever with the young boy who call himself DFO.

Plane Sailing = Frances = Contractair
Take care.

Plane sailing,
why dont you tell people that they need to check out of the hotel when they are not working?
So they stand on the road or has to pay for the hotel? As the DFO want?
Or why don't you tell them that they need to sign a paper accepting to obey OMa even though it is not according to the FTL. And not "Flight Tolerance Levels" as written in your contract. FTL means Flight time limitations.

Their roaster is like a rollercoaster.:E

Oh dear flyver sour sour grapes eh??? much as we all like to stay anonymous I understand that you have just been fired anyway. you see most of us are happy here and have been here a long time before you started moaning and groaning... you know what they say what goes around comes around. bye bye:D:D

Blanc Day
 

Blanc day = 24 hours standby in jet4you. Anybody that thinks otherwise is living in a Belgian dreamworld.

Flight directors on for TKOF please:= and have the aircraft stable at 500'

Why would one have to put FD's ON for Take-Off?! Can't you fly your aircraft without it or what? And if so, are you maybe not in the right job?

Are you one of those 250 hour cowboys that I have to fly with???
If so rent a light plane on the weekend and fly how you like. It's all about safety not your ego. :ugh:

And folks you read it here first... excellent advice from another simulator pilot who has never moved the control wheel more than one unit left or right other than their base training:rolleyes:.

captjns

Flight Directors off..... Hand fly all the way...... keep the speed up...... see how long you can keep it clean..... Speedbrake is for chickens.......etc etc

Frequently =

Level busts..........CRM nightmare...........Traffic Traffic.........drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.........'Speed,Spe ed'........terrain!terrain!........ WHOOP!WHOOP! PULL UP!.........etc etc

Just look at the latest Jet4You safety mag and the amount of unstable approaches and GPWS under 500 feet:=

Sir, is Jet4You accepting cv? Do you think they will make screenings in the near future?
Thanks a lot.

Can anyone tell me how JET4YOU get away with having pilots being on 24 hours standby.
This is exactly what you are on if you are on a blanc/ Open roster.

I have never heard of this in any other airline.

Do the Morrocan authorities really approve this or are they having the wool pulled over them.

The so called "blanc day" is a relict from the old FTL. The new FTL, in place since almost a year now, allows, however, exactly the same procedure if hotac standby is scheduled. The definition for hotac standby can be used also as home standby.
Only in the case of airport standby is a time frame for standby required.

Is there any airline in Morocco which is not using the "blanc day" procedure?

This problem of interpreting the FTL is not only a Jet4you problem, it is certainly a DAC induced situation as the intro of the new FTL in November last year has not been done in a proper way. There is no explanation nor guideline published. And since the union is busy with the nationalization issue, the airlines introduce more and more unwritten rules on how to read and understand the FTL.

21 hrs duty, are scheduled, 29 hrs duty are not rare, resetting the 7-day limits to 0 hrs after the 36 hr rest period, 1 hr check-in timings also, certainly for most airlines with base Casablanca, 1.5 or 2 hrs are more realistic etc.....

And in the case of Jet4you, don't forget that politics, schedules and other important issues are solely set and determined in Zaventem.

Flyver,Can you explain this bit?

Yes, on your days off, the very few you get, you must check out from the hotel. In your contract is written different, but Smet and Frances don't care.

FLYVER why does this concern you ,,,, werent you fired anyway. I can assure you that most of us are pretty ok with life here in Casa, its not the best but its not the worse either I suggest you find yourself a job and find useful time and useful remarks to post. in case you had not noticed things are rough out there for the moment for everyone and all airlines. it is obvious that you have a thing against both people mentioned but have the guts to confront them personally,,,, instead of hiding behind your name when we ALL know who you are get a life:= and stop moaning its gettting boring, some of the other people on this thread are trying to discuss interesting topics........... man you are sad

Nightrider though isnt it better that the politics and rostering are done from Zaventem dont you think?

Outsourcing is the key-word. While it helps a lot to have big brother or big mama (delete as appropriate) lending a hand while learning the way to the creche, a child has to learn to walk on it's own.
With the changes to come during the "nationalization" of 8J most politics have to be nationalized as well. And this may be supported heavily by the infrastructure change in the country. There is much more room for charter flights from other than CMN bases, as 8J has already discovered, and the LoCo market has one player less in the field now, there are no BMM flights anymore at all.

If Zaventem cannot decide about politics, and this of course based on commercial issues, they would not be interested in this green outfit at all. The direction this airline will move is exclusively based on the interests of the new partner, which by law will have to take a crumble more of the cake than Zaventem.

Soldiers are in place to enforce the HQ directives, but soldiers can easily be replaced as the past has shown; it all depends on muscle flexing during the next months or so.

However, due to the 8A / RAM integration and associated changes, there is and will be a great opportunity for fast actors to collect the abandoned business from RAK and AGA, a few slices 8J has obviously already loaded on the plate. Does this imply that 8J is changing into what 8A was pre-25th October? Good luck, I think it was a smart move.

hello i just registered as I wanted my say.

Flyver I am so glad you have gone as you were a total pain to fly with.

seconldy I have been with this company a couple of years now and I think that F Smet is a very decent individual. for those of you that dont know him he is young. good looking and decent, and yes all the cabin crew fancy him. ( is that your problem flyver) so you are either jealous of him or fancy him yourself flyver, But joking apart he is a decent individual who certainly helped me out in the past when I had a problem.

Also I work for Contractair and I cannot accept flyvers comments and for those of you who have just joined it cannot be easy for this agency or any other when Jet4You and their total lack of of an HR department keep trying to change everything, you cant keep up with it, But saying that I always get a response within hours of sending one, I am always paid on time, I am insured and I have no complaints. For those of us that have been here for a couple of years and have accepted the Moroccan way of life we dont want people coming here trying to upset things as nearly all of us are happy both with the company and the agency. I think what people like Flyver has to learn is how to adjust and how to ask, but that was obvious to me that all he wants to do is moan. anyway for my part I have no complaints I have a job and I am paid. but the happiest part of my day today is bye bye Flyver......... you wont be missed

How was that for my first post :D

Allie737. waste of a post. Why bother with the lies.:sad:
You know what it is really like here, flyver is telling it like it is. :ok:

flyver pilotless or whoever you are same same...... I joined to say something and I am entitled to that and I happen to enjoy my job, Personally I think you are flyver in disguise but if you dont like it why dont you leave ,,,,,, :=

allie737.....

Are you sure that all fancy him??? Do I recall a good-bye mail (which circulates all around aviation world) from a very kind gentleman in which you can find in excellent wording the unsuccessful attempt of the very same decent individual abusing his position to get into the lingerie of female cabin crew? Perhaps this came to light only and the other attempts did not make it to the keyboard as a story. And there were more than a handful of attempts; I leave it up to you to count the successful ones and the unsuccessful ones.

This policy was not issued in Zaventem, just for clarification.

Well, you can de-register again...face the real world.

allie737, try again, not flyver.
Get over it:=:=:=:=:E

Captain RK and Captain JK, as neither of you are part of this company any more why dont you just keep your comments to yourself. I dont understand why when you have left such an "awful company" as you think it is that you cant happily get on with your lives and leave us alone. Captain JK I suppose I understand your grievance but not sure Captain RK I understand yours, I dont think I will de-register as having quite a good time figuring out who you are, and guess what it doesnt take too long:= nothing is perfect in life but I for one am glad I have a job and for the most part an enjoyable one. So no I am not going anywhere after all, think what I can learn from you two guys. keep smiling

allie737, now I see that you got it really wrong....at least for me. I am none of the both you mention here, also I know them both very well. The way you replied here shows also that you lack any education as it is not appropriate in this forum to mention any names or initials. Use your time in a more job dedicated manner and you may be able to do a better job.

As far as "leave us alone" goes....it is most apparent that your statements given above needs some real inputs. Don't you think it is only fair to show the interested colleagues the facts instead of painting a picture which is not even close to matching anything?

You are not going anywhere else? Of course not....until the orders are given to go.

And yes....you make me smile.

glad I made you happy Nightrider,,,,, ermm but dont think it was me whom started naming names was it, I think it was one of those that you know well??? I just gave initials out.. anyway if anyone would like an impartial view on Jet4You and perhaps hear a few good points as well as bad perhaps it is best you send me an e, mail

have to go and do some work today :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Handbags at dawn :rolleyes:

Bond?
 

All,

I am led to believe that there is a bond for type rated captains. How much is it?

According to latest info, the bond is 18500 Euro for a year, not depreciating with months worked.Seems rather high but it does state 4 sim sessions plus the Moroccan DAG test and the OCC course, hotac and travel..Hmm?

No sick pay, means just that, if you're sick you don't get paid. No notice, if they don't want you, it's bye bye with no pay in lieu of notice.Overtime is paid at the end of the year if the contracted hours are exceeded rather than on a monthly basis.

You are quite correct - 18,500 is too high but thank you very much for letting me know.

There´s always a balls sucker around....