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SIL27 10th April 2008 07:45

Flybe
 
Hi everyone :-)

I have looked at the flybe website and know their payscale regarding basic salary.
But can anyone tell me about the flight pay? How much do you normally get as FO and CPT?
Are the flight pay tax free as in many other companies?

dv8 10th April 2008 09:47

£1.90 per flight duty hour
If HRMC has its was no one will have tax off the FDP
Was fully taxed up to last month. Some (temporary) tax relief given now I think at 18p in the pound I stand to be corrected.

edit: rate per hour was the old figure

G-FLYB 10th April 2008 10:24

Me thinks it is £1.90/hr

SIL27 10th April 2008 11:41

Okay... Thanks!

And how many flight duty hours do you normally have per month?

wellsey 10th April 2008 14:51

Depends on your base and what fleet you are on. Assuming you start on the Q400 expect anything from 40hrs in the winter to max hours in the summer. I have found that mine normally fall around the 60-70 mark with the odd manic month.
All in all, pretty good and you are home every night and no more night flights like my previous outfit......yeehah! I rarely get night stops but I am sure you will get someone on here saying they get loads....that is not the norm.
Hope this helps.

SIL27 10th April 2008 15:22

Okay! Thanks a lot!
I have been invited for an interview in June or July, whichever suits me.
Im Captain on Dornier 328 with a total of 2100 hours. In June or July I will probably have around 2250 hours. It seems like for a Direct Entry Command you need 2500 hours. But on their website they also mention something about experienced First Officers can expect a fast track to Command. Do you know anything about that? I dont know if Flybe is in huge need of Captains at the moment?

fatboy slim 11th April 2008 07:55

Never believe the old 'fast track to command' line. I've heard it said to many pilots either joining or leaving where I've worked and it has never been true. Unless they write down in your contract when you can expect your command course (which they won't) don't believe a word of it. Better to delay your interview for 6 months and go in DE command. Lots of people leaving BE all the time so constant need for experience.

six-sixty 11th April 2008 08:38

Flybe definitely need captains. You'll need a certain number of hours on type with Flybe (can't remember off top of my head) but with TT like that and previous command experience you won't be waiting long.

SIL27 11th April 2008 08:50

Okay thanks a lot.
I will see what they can offer in June ;-) But it doesn“t sound too bad once you become Captain with them.

skysod 11th April 2008 09:54

EMB 145 fleet now on the wind down, so most pilots on that fleet with enough hours (ie mainly captains) are looking elsewhere as they don't want to take a step (dare I say it) "backwards" onto turboprops (Q400).

So a shortage of commanders may be in the offing.

boeingboeingbong 11th April 2008 10:35

Well your step 'backwards' seems to be a step sideways in the eyes of Easyjet in that they consider the 145 and the Dash to be the same for their type rating sponsorshop scheme (also included is the 146/RJ).....

Iver 11th April 2008 13:05

How long before a newhire could expect to see the right seat of an E195? How long on average - 4 years?

Maude Charlee 11th April 2008 15:21

Re 195

Depends which seat you intend to join in, and again choice of base. If you intend to go RHS, expect 18-24 months before your seniority gets you onto the 195. Lovely bit of kit by the way. :ok:

onthebreakforhighkey 11th April 2008 21:07

Flybe Rostering
 
Hi nice Flybe people. I am interested in the roster patterns you guys work. I have been told 5 on 2 off of which the first 3 are earlys and the the last 2 lates. This then moves to 6 and 3. Could anyone give an indication of just how this works in practice with rough start and finish times. Also contract states to be within 1 hour for call outs; just how many standbys can you expect to undertake in the month.(nice chap in interview said don't do many)
Been used to whizzing around at Mach .83, looking forward to being home more but as a result will have a bit of a commute so any information would be great to help plan the future. Many thanks.

gainanduru 11th April 2008 22:27

well with capts they will work you out to max in the summer months on avg 90-100 rostered hrs:{
expect hard work, lots of disruption.
the best fleet at flybe is the emb-195 fleet but all promotions are based purely on seniority so for a command on the 195 expect upwards of 10 years at least.
If you plan to come to flybe think seriously about it
It's no place for a easy ,chill, relaxed lifestyle.:ugh:

Trainspotter 12th April 2008 07:25

Any clues as to which bases they are recruiting for?

Rollerboy 12th April 2008 07:30

Trainspotter

Recruitment directly on to the Dash 8. As an F/O, expect Flybe to place you north of the English/Scottish border. As a Captain, I am led to believe you can request a base.

Roller

SIL27 12th April 2008 08:31

Does anybody know what the interview will be like?
I have been told it will last around 45 min. - 1 hour. What to expect?

The Flying Cokeman 12th April 2008 08:38

SIL27,
I know you must be dying to leave Sundberg & Co. but are you willing to live in UK full time? What about your family in DK? Commuting long term forget it!
THere's a lot more to it than just getting a new job across the punt.
Held og lykke.
TFCM

SIL27 12th April 2008 10:58

HA HA HA yeah Im REALLY looking for a new challenge in my career. Im not interested in commuting and therefore, yes, Im willing to move to the UK permanent. Im 27 and single so why not :-)

Cyclone733 12th April 2008 11:17

SIL27,

There are a couple of good threads over in Interviews, jobs & sponsorship about the flybe interview and sim assement.

All the best

cheesycol 12th April 2008 11:28

Onthebreak

Not had a regular 5/2 roster yet.

For me April is 2off/5on/1off/3on/2off/5on/1off/4on/4off(leave)/4on

Flybe rosters are more of a wish list than a statement of fact - expect lots of airport standby, home standbys before a duty, and when it's quiet there will be bucket loads of home standby. Your roster will have plenty of changes!

Maude Charlee 12th April 2008 12:10

Your lifestyle depends entirely on base and fleet. At some locations (usually the far-flung banjo-playing corners of the empire ;)), crews barely get out of bed more than 3 times a week, and even then it is for a very short working day, whereas others are working like the proverbial one-armed paper hanger.

Choose carefully.

SIL27 15th April 2008 10:31

For sure the Dash is the most common aircraft on the Flybe network but which bases are actually the largest regarding destinations and number of aircrafts?

Im just curiuos about where you will have the most variation in your everyday flying regarding destinations and schedule.

FL370 Officeboy 15th April 2008 14:23

If you want variation in terms of destinations etc I would say SOU would be your best bet :)

slapdash8 16th April 2008 13:00

The larger Flybe bases are SOU, BHX and MAN. For more choice of routes, SOU and EXT. MAN is full of 145s at the moment with a 195 and 2 dash's night stopping. at the other end of the spectrum, theres IOM, 3 dash's, spending your time too and from LPL MAN and LGW, and your never more than an hour from work ;)

Coffin Corner 29th April 2008 13:03

1992

Historically you will not be able to choose your base unless you are joining as a DEP, even then it will be down to what's available.

If you are a low houred wannabe then you have to be prepared to move anywhere on the network, at the interview (or after on the phone) they will most likely say "welcome to flybe, your base is xxx", you may be told at interview what bases they are recruiting for, and if you show some discontent that this you will probably not get the job.
Once you have accepted the job you can then bid for the base of your choice every 6 months, I know of 2-3 f/os who started before me who bid for a base closer to home and had it within 8 months, but this is dependent on base requirements & movements etc.

Again historically flybe recruit for the northern bases, i.e. EDI GLA BHD & IOM, we are desperate for f/o's in JER apparently.

FL370 Officeboy 29th April 2008 23:05

These replies are a bit dated. Nowadays, the company will try and offer you a base before you start. If you don't want to be based there...wait until your preferred base is available. If you're not under pressure to start (i.e. a newbie desperate for a 1st job) then you aren't in the same boat of accepting anything. A few of my friends have started with flybe from other companies and got the base they wanted because they weren't desperate to start regardless of base.

expedite08 30th April 2008 07:35

Ive got a bit of a gap between my CPL and IR, is that a problem? During the gap I still maintained currency.
I was traininig in a new job and so had to halt the training for a while. Do they look heavily in to this sort of thing? :ok:

Coffin Corner 30th April 2008 08:51

Whether or not you've got the license is all you need to concern yourself with ;)

Iver 30th April 2008 13:40

What is the estimate for the soonest a newhire could bid the right seat of an E195 after starting? 3-5 years? Which bases would allow for that?

Coffin Corner 30th April 2008 15:25

All seniority dependent, if you are prepared to go anywhere it could be within 18 months (has been known to be sooner). If you want to wait for seniority you may be in for a bit of a wait.

Maude Charlee 30th April 2008 16:27

RHS 195 I suspect will take longer that RHS used to take with the 146. I haven't met anyone yet who is currently unhappy occupying that seat, and I think at long last the company may have hit upon a desirable office in which to reside. Ts + Cs not changed, but bit of a step back in time to jump to another a/c type now, which it never used to be, and the prosepct of a Dash command even more unpalatable to some than it was before. I would guess now that RHS vacancies pretty rare beasts much before 2-3 years, even in the less 'popular' bases.

Mister Geezer 30th April 2008 16:38

Less popular bases.... Anyone for Aberdeen??? :}

Serenity 2nd May 2008 09:00

Sim info
 
Looking for info on the sim ride if anyone can enlighten me, SIDs/STARs/Routes ??
Cheers!

speedrestriction 2nd May 2008 10:09

Relevant posts to be found towards the bottom here and

here

sr

Iver 2nd May 2008 12:44

Are there specific bases that do not offer E195 slots and only Dash slots? Also, how many total E195s have been delivered and ordered? Was the order for 30 aircraft?

Maude Charlee 2nd May 2008 16:12

Currently 10 in service with 4 more firm orders to be delivered. As far as I know, the others (12?) still remain as options.

195 bases currently EXT, SOU, BHX, BHD, MAN, JER, ABZ and INV. Don't believe current fleet plans will include a/c being based at any other location, as the propsed a/c for GCI has been located elsewhere due to GCI currently being unsuitable for 195 ops.

ABO944 2nd May 2008 19:31

Are Flybe currently looking for FO's ?

I am after a change of scenery ... 1350TT about 900 on TP ... not a Q400 though!

Would I stand a chance ?

Would prefer to be based down south.

Cheers,

:ok:

assymetricdrift 2nd May 2008 21:12

Long shot, but is anyone on here going to be on the May 28th T/R course?

And also, is anyone reading going to NCL?

Many thanks!


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