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spierpoint jones 4th December 2001 04:37

khalifa airlines
 
i read lately that the people at khalifa are ordering a couple of sims. is there anyone that knows about a possible expansion? also,
any info about who to contact for work etc.

thanks in advance,

TowerDog 4th December 2001 05:48

Khalifa?

That mean the same as kalif or infidel?

Sorry, don't intend to mix politics and religion with airlines, but uh, never heard of Khalifa..

Angel`s Playmate 4th December 2001 11:30

Hi Spierpoint Jones,

the pilots are mostly Algerians trained by
Condor hence the A 320`s are on dry lease from Lufthansa.
The 2 A330-300`s they have are ex LTU-ex Roots of Canada ,which went belly up, but the A/C are still registered in Canada and flown by Canadians. The single A340 they have is understood to be the one that Boeing bought from SIA in exchange for their B777s.

Who is doing the hiring is not quite clear, but if you are really interested to go there
drop me a private message and I might get a contact .

Good luck !

Hi TD

recceguy 4th December 2001 21:45

Hi Tower Dog

I just suggest that you take some interest in what's going on in other parts of the world.
That YOU have never heard of a company doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, doesn't it?
Well, for example, read the magazines, some are very good ones (Flight, Aviation Week..) you can buy them at the airports, or watch the other aircraft on the ground at the airports, or discuss with people who know!

And Khalif doesn't mean infidel, never did

Good luck

spierpoint jones 5th December 2001 02:12

outstanding.....thanks for all the info,although ,someone tried to be funny ,but isnt.....
good job!!

TowerDog 5th December 2001 02:21

recceguy:

Did I ever say the airline did not exist?

Meh thinks you are reading too much into a simple question.

The reason I asked was that I am interested in other companies and stuff. Duh.

Kalif means something in the Koran.
Forgot what it is.

Suggest you take a cold shower, cool off a bit.
:rolleyes:

LimaNovember 5th December 2001 11:43

TowerDog,

From what you wrote in your first posting I cannot see any interest, and I qoute:
---------------------------------------------
That mean the same as kalif or infidel?

Sorry, don't intend to mix politics and religion with airlines, but uh, never heard of Khalifa..
---------------------------------------------
So, if you do not have anything else to do, please do it somewhere else

;)

[ 05 December 2001: Message edited by: LimaNovember ]

sirwa69 5th December 2001 15:03

A320's A330's and an A340
spierpoint jones you may have a bit of bover with your signature
:D :D :D

recceguy 5th December 2001 15:26

thank you sirwa 69 I was just about to write something similar !

sharpshot 5th December 2001 17:51

If of any use to you, I took the photo of the A.340 published next to the simulator article in the publication referred to.

Know not a lot about Khaliffa, but they appear to be expanding rapidly. The photo was at OMDB where I also saw one of the canadian registered A.330's.

I believe that they operate mainly into Paris and other French destinations, but not with the recently acquired 340.

TowerDog 5th December 2001 18:39

Lima November:

If you think I need your permission to post whatever I want, you are sadly mistaken.

Now crawl back under the flat rock you came from.
Just follow the slime trail back.

dv8 5th December 2001 20:21

Close Tower Dog
Khalifa or Caliph

Is
noun historical the chief Muslim civil and religious ruler, regarded as the successor of Muhammad. The caliph ruled in Baghdad until 1258 and then in Egypt until the Ottoman conquest of 1517; the title was then held by the Ottoman sultans until it was abolished in 1924 by Atatürk
;)

recceguy 5th December 2001 20:55

To the many people apparently interessed in this thread, and not knowing the place because they are from the non-french speaking part of the world: in the contract ask where you would be based.
In Algiers, Oran... don't venture too far away from the hotel lobby (just before the sand-bags and the machine-gun station)
Sleep with a steel collar, you foreigners!
But yes, they have nice Airbuses

Firestorm 5th December 2001 22:25

About a year ago there were a couple of Irish registered aircraft and Irish (Captains?)voices on the RT, as well as Algerian FOs (?). Could there be or have been a connection with Parc? Never did get to talk to them as security in Hassi Messaoud wouldn't let us near them.

Don't know a lot more, but country of registration seemed to change quite regularly.

Whalerider 6th December 2001 00:02

Khalifa also operate 737-800s, A319s and A310s - the latter to LGW twice weekly.

PakoSpain 6th December 2001 04:17

Khalifa Air is been operating once a week an ATR-72 DAAG-LEMG during the summer season.
Regards
PS

caulfield 8th December 2001 17:13

The 737's are operated by Pegasus Airlines.The Algerians fly the ATR's and the A300's.Canadians fly the 330's.Dreadful place to work and nightmarish operations.
Towerdog's blissful ignorance is about the right attitude to have...new hires are usually Algerian or very inexperienced French pilots who go on the ATR.

high & fast 18th December 2001 21:41

Is the situation for potential foreign pilots operating out of Algeria or is there a bit of scaremongering going on? Where are you based out of and do they nightstop much on the A320's? And last of all do they have a website for further info?

silks 19th December 2001 00:47

Don't know much about Khalifa airlines,But, around 250 of thier students will be doing thier flying training at Oxford over the next 18 months. And they are Algerians.

he-man 21st December 2001 00:31

Hi Angel`s Playmate

I`m interested in a contact to Kahlifa. Could you tell me, how to get in touch with them please.

Firestorm 23rd December 2001 22:28

I think you will all find alot of nationalistic protectionism going on at Khalifa. Not that Algerians are unpleasant or anything like - those I met were pretty decent folk on the whole. But if they can employ an Algerian to do the job, however badly, they will over an expat to do the job properly.

Good luck to any one who does apply.

JJflyer 26th December 2001 21:30

In my eyes somebody coming from non french speaking parts of the world has a big + <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Mister Geezer 27th December 2001 04:57

Khalifa were set up in 1999 and since then they have been expanding at a blistering pace. Their order book says it all, ATR 42, ATR 72, A320, A330 and A340. However some feel that they are expanding far too fast for their own good. The economics of the airline is a point that many a consultant or accountant would find very interesting to say the very least! I spoke to one chap who did some ad-hoc consultancy work for Khalifa and he left early because he was appalled at the set up, in his words the airline had 'loads of cash but no planning, no strategy and finally no brain! Interesting point to note is that, Algeria has 'been in the dark' for some time and has a lot of gas revenues that have built up over time so cash might not be such a big problem. They want to expand and knock Air Algerie off the throne and become the new flag carrier for Algeria. Their website paints a rosy picture of long-haul routes to places like Jo'burg, New York and Jeddah among others. However is there really enough demand for Air Algerie and Khalifa to be both operating???? Either Khalifa is digging its own grave or it will pull through and Air Algerie will sadly suffer!

To kill your curiosity about the name of the airline, the company is named after the Chairman of the Khalifa group...... yes...... Mr Khalifa!!!!!

<a href="http://www.khalifaairways-dz.com" target="_blank">http://www.khalifaairways-dz.com</a> for further info.

I personally would not touch them with a barge pole if I was given the chance!

MG

MissChief 27th December 2001 13:33

Khalifa might be flush wuth dosh, after all the owner is also the owner of Khalifa Bank of Algeria, and literally dozens of shady operations from dodgy pharmaceuticals to food/luxury goods importation.

HOWEVER, as a good banker, Khalifa was so slow in meeting lease-payments, thast he played a big part in driving TransAer to the wall..they had 2 A320's operating around such pleasant, safe places as Tamannrasset, Constantine, Hasi-Messaoud, Annaba, Oran and the fabulous Algiers International. Anyone considering going there, think again. Not a safe country at all, and a slipshod operation into poorly equipped fields with dodgy ATC. (Not including the French fields in that, of course...)

Angel`s Playmate 27th December 2001 17:03

He-man:
You were looking for a contact, try either their website which posted Mister Geezer already or call Switchboard on 2-150 6370 and try to get a hold of the Chiefpilot Cpt.Khaleed.

Good luck !


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