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abortt 12th March 2007 14:52

Globespan
 
Could anyone help with the T&Cs for Captains on the 737. Done a search, can't seem to find much info from anywhere but PPJN.
Thanks

nosmo king 21st March 2007 16:33

I see from ppjn that GSM's pay and pension contributions have gone up, does anybody know if there is any LOL, private healthcare etc??

CLANKING 21st March 2007 16:36

The Answer is very easy None. Possibly in the future:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

SKI 22nd March 2007 23:15

What's it really like in Globespan?
 
Maybee an interview next week 75/76 what's the gen? Honhest!!!

weiss5 25th March 2007 11:16

Ski,

read the previous posts before thinking of joining this company. this ship is sinking fast!!

Lembrado 25th March 2007 14:02

Weiss5,

Who the hell are you to say such a thing - do you work for Globespan?

Globespan has it's share of problems (poor scheduling, some abnormally long duties), but to say this ship is sinking fast is a bit of an over reaction. Come on man, have some perspective!

L.

ginovella 24th October 2008 08:18

Better than it is working for Jet2 !!!!!!:E

tonker 24th October 2008 09:04

Your right ginovella, fancy having to work for a company thats actually making a profit:rolleyes:

Bigfoot 24th October 2008 10:47

Globespan seems good to me.
 
Lucky Jet2 are part of the Dart group, wonder how the profits would look if they wer'nt part of the dart group. Would'nt be good I reckon.

Jet 2 A/c. Classics. Average age. 15 - 20 years + ?? Can JET 2 afford NG's??

Globespan. Ng's 1-3 Years Old, Dreamliner on Order.

Globespan. Ltd company, Good winter ACMI's + Long term ACMI, good loads for short haul.

Seems to me Globespan is in a very good position, granted they made a loss last year. This years looking good.

Does'nt look like a sinking ship to me.

Globespan seems the better choice to me:ok:

tonker 24th October 2008 12:58

And the only company to have ever had their ETOPS approval withdrawn is...

Good luck with the Dreamliner;)

the goon 24th October 2008 13:22

This years looking good?
 
Well, they`ll be one of the only airlines around thinking that......:hmm:

webby1919 24th October 2008 14:03

GSM are on target for making 2-3 million profit this year.

Lots of ACMIs for Winter 08, and good loads on shorthaul.

freightdoggy dog 24th October 2008 14:47

Gino, one minute you were there the next you were gone ! Just hope Globespan doesn't go the same way as Sabre !
See you at the BOH bash Dame O . I still have a giggle at your cv when you left Ops even now :ok:

Pontious 24th October 2008 18:19

Tonka

I think you'll find you are mis-informed. I think you'll find they weren't one of the first, a one of the MAN based biggies had theirs revoked in the late 90's. GSM handed theirs in voluntarily.

Weiss

Evidence please. NOT unsubstantiated rumour, cold hard facts please..

Just a general 'heads up', the mod's watch this forum & any 'scaremongering' usually results in the thread being pulled. Check out 'FlyGlobespan 7' and read the mod's warning & read 'FlyGlobespan 8' if you need any information.

I've been here for 2 1/2 years & enjoy it. It's so good it's stopping me from re-joining EK after returning to the UK for a period of compassionate leave of absence.

Financially sound, making profit, CAA happier with the new management's style & record. Plenty of seats sold for next seasons schedule ex-UK & plenty of long & medium term ACMI contracts to see us through the dark times ahead for aviation. I'm staying here. Enough said.
:ok:

King Halibut 24th October 2008 19:52

True about Jet2 having old tramp machines but our loads are good and we're making money ... good going in this climate.
I'd not like to see Globespan going under .. friends there tell me that they're turning it around so that's good!

Afinehelmet 25th October 2008 04:05

Abort,

To try and bring your thread back on topic.

The figures you see on PPJN are correct and current. If you're a PAYE guy then the £2.10 duty pay is tax free and applicable from the moment you check in until you're duty period ends. What's published on PPJN is pretty much what you get.

For a Contractor, obviously things are not the same but Wynnwith and Zenon are the agencies that GSM deal with, so that's where you will get your information.

As for the company, don't get me wrong, GSM is not BA. But, the planes are decent and the routes are OK. If you're a Capt on the 737 fleet then your roster won't be as stable as you'd like. FO's on the 737 fleet have a stable roster. The 75/76, because it's short of flight deck crew is under the cosh at the minute. But once the additional crew is employed, no doubt things will settle down.

The company culture itself is excellent. There have been many threads on here that have been "cut" because of GSM bashing and believe me, that "cut" is warranted. It's not a bad company to be a part of. The one criticism I have is there is sometimes a lack of effective communication from within and as a Capt (737) your roster is often changed. Having said that, your days off are set in stone, what changes is the sectors you fly on days you were going to be at work anyway.

There's far worse out there mate!

spinnaker 25th October 2008 07:54

abortt

Your OP begs the question. Are you jumping or switching ships? Something I wouldn't be contemplating myself at the moment. Unless of course, your current employer is that horrible.

ReallyAnnoyed 25th October 2008 08:42

The Goon, I think that this year is predicted to be profitable for many airlines. The real problem is 2009. But then again, managements in all companies do prefer the employees to be a little scared.

Highflight420 25th October 2008 08:56

I hadn't quite realised what a nasty industry aviation has become, or at least certain elements within it.

Why on earth would you post threads gloating over whether or not another company is going to fail or succeed in the present economic climate, it has always been a tough industry for those of us who have been in it long enough, but for the last 10 years or so we have been lucky enough to have had this sustained period of growth, now there is a correction taking place.

All this talk of my company is more financially sound than yours or my aircraft is newer than yours should be confined to the playground where, it is obvious some of these individuals belong.

Can we not just wish every airline and its employees the best of luck in the present economic environment and that hopefully we will see you all on the other side in a year or two's time.

williewalsh 25th October 2008 09:34


Jet 2 A/c. Classics. Average age. 15 - 20 years + ?? Can JET 2 afford NG's??

Globespan. Ng's 1-3 Years Old, Dreamliner on Order.

Globespan. Ltd company, Good winter ACMI's + Long term ACMI, good loads for short haul.

Seems to me Globespan is in a very good position, granted they made a loss last year. This years looking good.

Does'nt look like a sinking ship to me.
Are we talking about XL up until 0057 12/9/08.
We might as well be. I dont want anyone to go thru what they did but come on guys . these are stock denial arguements. You only missed out " great bunch of people".
So were the XL (now) diaspora:yuk:

Check Mags On 25th October 2008 09:47

I don't want to get into a pissing contest.

WW you missed out one major fact XL had a management buyout and owed the money for that which I believe was in the 10's of millions if not more.

GSM owe nothing at all, there is a difference between the 2 companies.

I'm with HF420 on this let's all just get along and keep our companies going and hopefully when the upturn comes (??) it gives a place for all those who have not found a new job a place to go.

CMO

P1 Forever 25th October 2008 13:34

No need to worry about this airline going under, check the link:

FlyGlobespan defends financial position

Pontious 26th October 2008 10:01

PAYE- T's& C's could be tweaked with Critical Illness/ Health Insurance & Loss of Licence Cover but days off are cast in stone.

Contractors- Money could be improved a bit especially as a Contractors 'Remittance' is supposed to be slightly higher than PAYE levels as you have to sort out your own tax, NI, Medical/Health Ins, Pension etc.

Generally the B737 shags have hardish but stable rosters with limited scope for overseas ACMI operations, while the B757/B767 crews are being 'expected' to spend anywhere between 12 days & 2 months away from families in a continuous stint unless you're 'lucky' enough to bag a 1 weekly GLA-SFB 24hr stop-over. Summers for the B757/767 tend to be 'Bullets' to Canada/US with the continuing ACMI Mod contract & odd UK domestic positioner.

Like I've stated earlier, I've been around Ad Hoc Charter, Scheduled Charter, Scheduled Long/Ultra Long Haul in 23 years of flying & the happiest I've been is here. It's a good, personable company. Supportive, professional, approachable & practical Flight Op's management. Small, friendly almost family-like atmosphere. I won't be going anytime soon. Almost a complete turnaround since last year....

:ok:

Wee Willy McGorbals 27th October 2008 01:35

Rosters are a work of fiction and published 7 days in advance of duty and not on the 15th of the month as advertised. Typically 6/7 days on 2 off.

albertoli 29th October 2008 15:21

Down The Pan
 
I see their aircraft sitting on the ground more than they used to. 767 at LTN recently. £20 million loss last year to a profit this year - don't think so! I see that Mr Dalrimple (SP?) has been paying for advertising saying that the company are doing well -me thinks he profess too much.

Dont get me wrong, I hope they dont but their OTP is not good either!

luvly jubbly 29th October 2008 15:35

Try the more realistic figures of £13 million loss last year due 5 engine changes and Aircraft aquisitions.
Looking healthy this year, with a reasonable profit expected......

Every 6 months, someone says we are sinking fast, but we're still here....:ugh:
See you in the summer!

LJ

plumponpies 30th October 2008 09:19

As one of the recent casualties of airlines going bust, i really do get pissed off with people 'talking down' airlines or companies they know nothing about!
True or not, it does nothing but harm when discussed on a public forum.
Any bashing followed by a " Oh, i hope they do stay in business" comment makes you look a ****.

Check Mags On 30th October 2008 11:22

Here here
 
Plumpponies.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

I hope you have already found new employment.

CMO

plumponpies 30th October 2008 15:36

Sadly, not yet.:{

Pontious 31st October 2008 11:14

Albertoli

Well spotted. One of our 767's was at LTN for a while & now another one has taken its place. It's a phenomenon called 'Maintenance'. Aircraft need routine scheduled checks or minor modifications/ config. changes for lease customers. Our heavy checks are done with Monarch at their facility at, wait for it, LUTON!! There you go,Albertoli. A simple explanation as to why a GSM 767 was parked up at LTN.

It is obviously such an irritation to a feckless few that GSM is pulling through one of the darkest times in global financial history never mind just the aviation industry.

:ok:

FlyingOfficerKite 31st October 2008 21:59

Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with Plumponpies and Pontius, I wouldn't worry too much - it's unlikely that anyone with any real credibility is likely to take cognizance of any of the negative Posts regarding the future of airlines on this or any other PPruNe Thread.

No doubt many pundits will read with some amusement the comments written here - now and then snippets of information may prove useful, but hardly likely to determine the future of FlyGlobespan of any other operation.

Having been associated with FlyGlobespan in the past I do, genuinely, wish the airline and its staff well for the future.

FOK :)

islasdad 1st November 2008 15:19

paying attention to posts
 
I hate to disagree with you mr kite but you couldnt be more wrong. Places like Paddy Power along with other less informed or sometimes down right scaremongering journos and slf do listen to some of the idiots on here

I know from a good source that paddy powers criminal speculation as to who might go bust next almost became a self fulfilling prophecy for one airline.

As soon as the company started featuring on the lists a senior source told me it was almost as if someone had switched the phones off. previously they had been thriving and suddenly their sales plummetted. The company that handled their credit card facilities got nervous with no foundation and with held money they had no right to JUST IN CASE. The company that covered their credit for fuel payment heard this and stopped giving credit and demanded payment in advance.

So as a result of completely unfounded speculation from the uninformed a previously thriving business suddenly became one whose cash flow was tight. Because they were a lot more robust than these mischievious speculators claimed they survived but it was a tough time and jobs were put at risk needlessly.

So all you idiots that feel the need to persistantly persecute airlines on these pages please cease and desist the damage you "unwittingly" do is immeasurable, and I am sorry the codicill "I REALLY HOPE THEY DO OK,SURVIVE, MAKE IT THROUGH" simply does not make what your doing either understandable or forgiveable.

Sorry for the rant guys but its a tough time for all at the minute and I am sick of these IDIOTS making it worse.


ID:mad::mad::mad:

FlyingOfficerKite 1st November 2008 17:56

Islasdad

I understand a senior executive in BA said 30 airlines are going to go bust before Christmas - I'm still waiting.

Now if an industry pundit can make such a claim and (hopefully?!) be wide of the mark, then I don't think airlines need fear too much from PPruNe!

Eighteen months ago, in March 2007, Weiss5 wrote

read the previous posts before thinking of joining this company. this ship is sinking fast!!
Either the holes have been plugged or, as I say, the comments on this Thread should be taken with a pinch of salt.

KR

FOK :)

Pontious 1st November 2008 18:36

Islasdad,
You're absolutely spot on.

FOK,
I fear you may be a little nieve as to the potential damage media speculators such as PaddyPower can wield. I watched the threads build here for a week about Excel (RIP) before the BBC started reporting it. Excel lasted 5 more days.

Personally, I think that PaddyPower could be sued if a direct link can be seen regarding the health of a company prior to & after their company name appears on PP's site should the company suffer loss of bookings or, heaven forbid, fail.

That would make the Pikey's panic a bit, & hopefully realise the ramifications of their actions.
:ok:

FlyingOfficerKite 1st November 2008 19:50

Pontius

I don't consider myself naive.

Are you saying that if the demise of Excel had not been reported on PPruNe or punters had not the taken notice of PaddyPower, Excel would now be in a healthy financial position?

I think not.

You have to differentiate between what is informed comment and what is assessed to be a statement of the inevitable. Which, in the case of Excel, amounted to the same thing!

KR

FOK

PS: I suppose that's why there were around 90,000 passengers (Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) stranded overseas when Excel when bust - the largest 'rescue' operation ever undertaken! Obviously these people (slf) hadn't read PPruNe or visited PaddyPower?!

GSM SCOT 2nd November 2008 07:09

Seeking Alternative Employment
 
The crew who are now "seeking alternative employment" are seasonal crew. Contracted for the summer.

Most will be returning next summer so can't have been that badly treated.

Jimmy Riddle 2nd November 2008 15:00

I assume you mean seasonal....and based on what I've been hearing from them.... I doubt any would wish to return....if they had any other mortgage paying options....

Pontious 2nd November 2008 19:39

FOK

I wasn't saying you were totally nieve, just possibly a little.

I'm simply uneasy about the the fact that the postings on here are read by Journo's & that they try to 'follow up' leads by contacting posters, particularly the one's with grudges, & quote them in reported articles in the media spreading doom & gloom. I don't like the fact that they can damn near print anything with no accountability.

I had a massive 'exchange' with one who published in a UK national newspaper that Globespan were 'going bust next' & among his sources were this site & PaddyPower. Fortunately, Globespan isn't in anywhere near the poor shape Excel was in, nor are they as soley dependant on passenger bookings for revenue but I know quite a few concerned travellers called the Reservations line to either cancel trips & demand refunds or enquire about the 'financial security' of the company, so if existing concerned customers called the Res'Line, how many wary travellers didn't book a trip with Globespan? Hence why the owner, Tom Dalrymple, published his letter outlining the company's financial position.

No offence was intended, I just wish we had leashes & muzzles for mere Hacks & enforced codes of reporting for journalists.

Jimmy Riddle

I guess they were the ones who hadn't done any 'ASI's yet.
:ok:

gflynorw 3rd November 2008 19:29

can we close this forum down please.... honestly, folk can't help themselves...

FlyingOfficerKite 3rd November 2008 22:19

Pontius

No offence taken!

It's just good to discuss these things - that's what PPruNe is all about!

KR

FOK :)

PS: If this was not the case then we might as well close PPruNe down! No offence ever intended


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