I have to agree with Tormuick

It seems to be breathtaking cynicism, and undoubtedly reflects on the nature of the management!

Buyer beware!

The future at London City
 

Any ideas on what the future holds for the company, and how long will Willy keep it going for? I've heard that the pax loads to Milan/Madrid are very, very poor, and not sustainable. Also heard that City Jet are going head to head with them on every route they have out of City!

With the ramp extension going in, it won't be long before Willy can get some shiny new A318's in there of the main-line variety.

T:suspect:

Was talking to an x-RJ skipper today. Lives in Scotland, forced off the RJ when the six went to Swiss. Told he had Grandfather rights, told by RJ fleet manager and senior trainer he was needed in EDI and they would support his bid. Bid for EDI. Told by BALPA transfer to CF would not be an issue. Has the RJ current on Licence with lots of LCY experience. Can't even get a reply from CP or PH ! And to top it all now an advert in Flight !

That's the standard of management you can expect. Remember no one in CF has ever run a happy successful company.

Good Luck and remember two years means about 10 months or as long as the RBS contract lasts !

Toastal,

Passenger loads on the LCY-Milan route are low. Passenger loads on LCY-MAD are actually good!

Have been offered a position but after reading all the negative reviews not sure what to do?
Any advice would be most appreciated!

Join us at FlyBE :)

Absolutely ****ing unbelievable. Currently a BACON SF/O with 2500 hours on 146, 3600 hours TT. I applied for both Captain and First Officer positions on the RJ. Got neither, despite good training record. Found out that non type rated F/O's from BACON who are more junior to me have got RJ F/O positions.

This just goes to show what a completely bunch of odius turds Hutch and his hanger on are. I wonder what BALPA will do? Oh I forgot, absolutely **** all.
Although I have a new job with a 737 operator, this still feels like a kick in the nuts. Had I been offered an RJ command, I would probably have taken it.

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just out of interest are you a bacon pilot or did you apply externally. If you applied externally how come you have been offered a position so quickly if the advert in flight has only just appeared. ( I am presuming you response on pprune is promted by Torimucks postings ??)

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Forget it, looks like you applied for an FO's position. nice to know external FO candidates got in before any Bacon FO's. Looks like you'll have to stick that one in your pipe too hey Skyanyn !!

SV I'm not aware of any non type rated Bacon f/o's who have got RJ f/o jobs. Certainly none I can think of.

Except all the new ones straight from the Hutch family training camp in Spain !

Hi Towser

I spoke to one of them last week. It is true.

It is true.
But you either have to be of the fair sex, or your face needs to fit the Hutch/Phelan mould.
Yuk.
:eek:

11 pilots by all accounts, which match the number of RJ pilots who did not want to go to City Flyer but opted for Flybe, and who are now on secondment to City Flyer !!

SV ; Think I know who you mean now , is there more than one?

Affirm towser. One more senior than me has flown the RJ before. The other who is junior to me on seniority hasn't. I don't begrudge either of them their positions as I'm leaving. If a command had been offered, I would have stayed. The point I'm trying to make is that the selection process (if there ever was one) is a complete farce. Despite being type rated and having a good training record I was never asked to attend a selection interview. A number of the companies' senior captains (including type rated sim trainers) were also rejected.

Furthermore, I believe that members of the BALPA CC were complicit in this process, having been bought off with a command. Why else would the relevant thread on the BALPA forum disappear?

You seriously expected the process to be transparent, fair and above board? And this is BA?

Surely you jest! :=:=:=

OK my mistake. However I didn't expect BALPA to crap on us. Hope PM enjoys his command.

PM.............What a buffoon.

An ego far larger than his ability.

Good riddance. We in FLYBE wont have to suffer his puerile posts on our Balpa web site any more.

RBS hold the purse strings?
 

I now have a horrid feeling that turning down my Easyjet offer may prove to be one of my less good career decisions. :oh:
I understand the cheap cadets are failing conversion in greater numbers than expected, :cool: I also hear that the Management are not all in agreement that the policy of deliberate exclusion of experienced RJ type rated pilots is a good idea.
Summary: lots of potential for another BA cockup. I have an interview with BMED......don't hold your breath, PM is only the start of it.:hmm: The key factor (I beleive) is just the RBS factor - if that contract goes, so does the latest BACON product.

Just as a discussion point, I also reckon that Modderator and Remoak are the same person, deliberately stirring sh1t. Examine their language and phraseology - too close too call!:*