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As a new member I back BALPA 100% - they have got it exactly right in terms of their demands. Whether we want it or not, we are facing a direct threat to the future well-being of every pilot in the company at whatever base they work from. The only credible response is to join BALPA immediately and support our excellent CC in the difficult times ahead.
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Let's not under-sell ourselves. What BALPA is asking for costs out at just 12 pence per ticket.
Also, concerning DECs, and FOs not getting loyalty bonus, some of us bottom feeders are nudging 5 years with this company and were told when the loyalty bonus was originally given away, that it wouldn't affect us as upgrade times were so quick. Well now they are not so quick and each DEC keeps loyal eJ guys further away from an upgrade and an extra 5% loyalty pay which would be a much appreciated chunk of change. Add loyalty pay for FOs to the list please. |
Well, the results are just out, and as I have said before, it's not that they can't afford it:
Good growth reflected in 21% rise in passengers and revenues up 23% Profits benefit from acceleration in cost reductions Profit before tax up 11% in H2, up 9% for full year to £68m (£62m) Reported earnings per share up by 3% to 10.7p Passenger numbers up 21% to 29.6m with load factor improved to 85.2% from 84.5% Total revenue per seat up 2% to £38.66 Ancillary revenue per seat ahead by 17% reflecting our continued focus in this area Fuel cost per seat up 68% in H2, up 47% for full year Reduction in cost base accelerated with cost per seat ex-fuel and goodwill amortisation down 7% in H2 and 4% for the year, with reductions achieved in all key areas. Network developing rapidly with 72 new routes added in last year, giving a total of 212. Strong growth in continental Europe, revenue up 78% with Germany on track Commenting on the results and prospects, Ray Webster, Chief Executive, said: “We’ve made sound progress in the year with good growth in passenger numbers and revenue. Despite the fuel price increases we’ve minimised the rise in costs and, excluding fuel, our cost base per seat has fallen by a useful 4.4%: indeed we accelerated our reduction in ex-fuel costs during the year, clearly benefiting our profits. I’m pleased also with the expansion of our network and with 72 new routes added we are in good shape for future growth. “In the current financial year we expect to deliver capacity growth, measured by available seats, of 15%. Our strong focus on controllable costs will continue and should result in a 3-5% reduction in cost per seat, before fuel. While we anticipate a slight reduction in total revenue per seat, ancillary revenues will improve with double digit percentage growth supported by a series of new initiatives. Overall, we therefore expect to achieve mid to high single-digit percentage profit growth.” Financial reports So, when they say they cannot afford it, just remember the pilots of easyJet are working harder than ever to make this money for the company. |
Having just read the latest copy of 'Plane News', I was fascinated to read Ray Webster's take on the latest figures. To quote the man himself,
"Although we've made a profit it belongs to the shareholders, and they want to get a fair return on their investment. The average company on the UK stock market makes three times more profit than we do, and our current profit level is nowhere near good enough to justify long term investment by shareholders - they would be better off puting their money into better performing companies. We need long term investment to survive and grow, so we need to make more profit. As has always been the case, I trust that our people will work hard and be supportive of our approach to ensuring the successful future of the airline." The last sentence in particular is clearly a thinly-veiled warning to the pilots over the current pay dispute and is fully in keeping with our CEO's take on the world. However plausible it would be to suggest that the profit belongs to the shareholders it is simply not the case - and the CEO knows it. Presumably if he really thought that he would feel constrained to turn down the vast bonus he will receive on his departure since that also comes from the profit - I suspect not! A part of this profit also belongs to 'our people' who created it through hard work and dedication - and that includes the pilots who are at the core of the easyjet operation. In the statement quoted above the future of industrial relations at easyJet is revealed - big profits for the fat cats coupled to harder work and progressively smaller salaries for 'our people'. Fortunately for us, and for easyJet, Mr Webster is departing imminently and a chance exists to return to the values Stelios envisaged when he started the company. Instead of building an airline based on Southwest Airlines Ray Webster has established a company based on the classic recipie for industrial discord - corporate greed and stuffing the staff. As he has more time to contemplate life he might do well to reflect on why there is an issue of shareholder value. Maybe I could assist with a few pointers of where the money has gone. He may recall that it is not so long ago that 40 easyJet managers (RW being among them) were so taken with the deal they had done over the acquisition of GO that they awarded themselves £10 million to divide up between them. Alas, there was just not enough left for any of the easyJet pilots - such is life! Nonetheless the pilots worked progressively harder to make the company even more profitible. Clearly our managers were on the ball though as they bought 156 seater aircraft (which 98% of the time carry 150 people or less) but which require the employment of an extra cabin crew member on every flight. With 120 Airbuses that will eventually be about 600 extra cabin crew at about £9 million a year - no misuse of money there then. Then there was the decision to build 'easyLand 2' but unfortunately no one bothered to check that the floor would not hold the weight so a fortune was lost on a white (orange?) elephant. Then there was the loss of millions on the DBA fiasco - but what is a few million between friends? If one were to to follow our CEO's argument to its logical conclusion it would seem entirely reasonable that the pilots, and indeed all other employees at easyJet should just be grateful for their jobs and rejoice at their good fortune to be governed by such great guys. Indeed the progressive reduction in their salaries to pay for all the managers' bonuses and shareholders dividends should be considered a privelege rather than a burden. The days are mercifully long gone where fat barrels sit in food-filled boardrooms looking out at the Poor House wondering how to get a few bob more out of Oliver and his mates. It may come as a complete surprise to our managers that we actually aspire to go up in the world and not down. I know it is strange but that's just the way it is. In short if you think we will sit back and watch you line your own pockets on the back of our efforts you have another thing coming. There is a groundswell of opinion turning in favour of BALPA as the true intent of our managers to rob us blind has become clear. If you truly want 'the full co-operation of the staff in pursuit of the survival of the company', you would do well to recognise that it is the employees of easyJet who have put easyJet where it is today. The shareholders have a right to a share of the profit, but so do the employees of the company. The pilots are going to work hard at making easyJet the safest and most profitable airline in Britain - in return we expect our managers to ensure we are not rewarded for our efforts with a pay cut. We simply will not roll over and play dead while you take the fillings out our teeth. Through total incompetence our managers have set themselves on a collison course with the pilots which nobody wanted. The insulting nature of what has been offered, and the manner in which it has been done, has brought on a battle that the pilots simply cannot afford to back down from. In short we will categorically not be 'supportive of our approach' - we will fight it every step of the way. A new broom approaches in the form of Andy Harrison, CEO designate - I just hope he has more grasp of how to make a company work than his predecessor. He will find that increasing the dismal 13.3% of the company's costs being spent on his staff will turn out to be a significantly better alternative to having a lot of aircraft sat on stand with no crews to fly them. |
NSF,
Who can disagree with any of that? Some interesting notes. Last year Ray said: "It has been a challenging year for many of easyJet’s people and I am grateful to them for their professionalism and dedication to our values and customer service. Our success is rooted in them and their ability to adapt, innovate and act, and we look forward to many more years of continued growth." Hasn't the message to the employees changed subtely. Furthermore, some numbers. The DBA debacle cost us £7.8m. RW's salary went up 16% to £488k. On top of that he was awarded an annual bonus of £98k, plus an option of shares which netted him £1,377k. So that's nearly £2m for Ray. I have no issues with someone earning a lot of money, but I do have issues with that person telling me I (who have worked my arse of to make that money for him) have to accept that my derisory annual salary has to be cut in order to keep the shareholders happy and wealthy. |
Yet another superb posting from NSF.
Perhaps the only other minor management cock up we haven't mentioned is the Carmen debacle. Those us us lucky enough to be working for "The great Orange Con", will remember what a mess that was. Allegedly cost millions, although extremely difficult to quantify. Still, nobody can be accountable as Easy has a superb no blame culture, unless of course you happen to be a Pilot or Cabin Crew!. Does make me chuckle when I see the ads for Easy on this site. "UNIQUE OPEN CULTURE"........... Nothing could be further from the truth. Great to see such a groundswell of support for BALPA, the likes of which I have not witnessed previously in Easy or my previous airlines. It's great to see that the new CC are doing an excellent job thus far and enjoy my FULL support. 50 new BALPA members this week alone!. I shall be wearing my BALPA badge with pride, don't forget to order yours.:) |
I don't work for Easy but all of you should listen to NSF. He makes alot of sense. You boys and girls lead the way in the low cost market and when you do something everybody else follows. Stand your ground and fight for the deal you think you should have.
At the end of the day what you get dictates how all the other Airlines respond and thats why I am watching this thread closely. Your fighting for the industry not just yourselves and I thank you all for that. Good luck guys and join BALPA now! |
Nice one NSF.
The DBA thing really stands out above all else. Someone actually sanctioned the spending of millions of Euros in order to do.......................................................... ........ nothing!! Which management training manual did that one come out of? |
Sure, I will accept that where decisions are being taken, sometimes the wrong one will be made as well.
Nobody is infallible. However; when the wrong decision has been made I and it ends up costing a lot of money, I do not expect management to reward themselves but to take a more humble approach and waive their bonus as they have obviously not earned it! How can anyone defend this while at the same time Cabin Crew will get laid off or at least get demoted because they've blown a slide? No captain will fly around without insurance because they're not sure if the company will not burn them at the stake when they happen to screw up. It is good to see this all summed up like this, thanks NSF. A good reminder for everyone who hasn't joined yet what we're up against, and why it is important to stand behind BALPA on this one. Don't forget: any payrise we get obviously doesn't come out of their bonus anyway! |
There is a persistent rumour (although I suspect it is just to tempt more to join the fray) that we in RYR (except the "home" bases) will move from 5353 to 5454, so for chrissake, do yourself a favour and don't even contemplate accepting less than 5353, otherwise you are doing our recruiters a very big favour!We in "micky-land" are watching all of this unfold with more than passing interest,and I am deeply impressed with the groundswell of BALPA support;would love to think one day we could achieve something similar ,but. . . .
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I would imagine that Ryanair will keep pretty qiet about changes to terms and conditions until the Easy debacle plays itself out. Whatever we get, O'leary just has to do marginally better and the orange floodgates will open. Much as I dislike O'leary, he is clever. Webster on the other hand is just another muppet who had surrounded himself with a virtual orange Sesame Street. The new boy in town will have his work cut out fixing this mess.
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Yesterday, in his stand up speech in Lala land RW covered all the guff outlined in the year end report made to the city/shareholders. He then proceeded to cover his favourite subject of cost control stating that: 1) All office staff will have a pay freeze for three years. 2) Only the top 50 managers will be sharing large slices of performance associated bonuses and 3) Pilots and cabin crew should not be able to access bonuses as they can facilitate an increase in their pay by flying more should they wish to do so !!!!! I kid you not. He also promised shareholders that the profit return per seat sold would be increased regardless of fuel and other mandatory costs.
Today, in an e-mail to all staff, he has announced the redundancy of an estimated 50 staff. Funny how he didn't have the balls to include that in his speech yesterday. Nice way to end your tenureship. Happy Christmas to you too Ray.:ok: |
Either,
He hasn't got a clue about the airline he's run for the last 9 years, or Everything he says is carefully designed to piss us off. Maybe I should apply to the CAA to have the 900 hours rule lifted "as a fatigue reducing measure". Ray, I hope you enjoy your retirement and find pleasure in spending the several million you took out of eJ each and every year. |
Pilots and cabin crew should not be able to access bonuses as they can facilitate an increase their pay by flying more should they wish to do so The sooner RW buggers off back down to NZ the better! Incidentally, would it not be worth the EZY pilots trying to get the cabin crew on side for the pay rise negotiations, because once your pay rise has been resolved (hopefully in favour of you guys and not management) it will then be our turn to enter the negotiations. Perhaps BALPA should try to join forces with the T&G over this and the two unions try to get a pay deal that is truly acceptable for both the pilots and the cabin crew - after all, easyJet would be nothing without the 6 people onboard (or 5 on the 737) that are getting people from A to B!!! |
Well it looks more likely that we are going to be at loggerheads on this pay deal.
I doubt that RW will have implemented and said such a thing, only for the new CEO to come in and quash it as it was said they would be working together over the transitional period. RW's comments as to us getting more money further illustrate how little he actually knows about what goes on in his company and just how to strike the jugular with his staff. At least he has realised that they are overstaffed with managers over there and will be shedding some of the deadweight that seems to be abundant, but nice time to announce it Ray.. It is certainly going to be an interesting 6 months and I for one would not want to be without union support. I was previously quite happy to just watch things happen on the fence, but it seems RW et al are further locking horns with ALL their staff, not only the pilots and Cabin Crew. Come on Guys/Girls. Lets get behind our Company Council by joining BALPA and prove to these 50 'Senior' Management that we can kick them back in the nuts.. |
Well chaps, having just read the latest pathetic E-Mail, signalling an all out push for further cost cuts, I have now decided enough is enough. From today, I will be malking a concerted effort to leave this shower.
This company really has taken the fun out of the job! :yuk: |
In some ways it is quite gratifying to see old Ray in his true colours - old management with old ideas bringing about old conflicts with old plans to fill his own pockets at the expense of the people who actually made the profit. In short he is yesterday's man who is shortly to be consigned to the dustbin of obscuirty. Sadly he will be leaving with a large chunk of our money in his pocket - such is the nature of corporate greed.
Webster's outrageous statements should be a huge catalyst to any wavering pilots about the need to join BALPA. There is simply no alternative. Once we have 70%+ membership we can then set about challenging the established norms of the way our negotiations are conducted and ensuring the staff share in easyJet's success. While Webster enjoys substantial financial rewards everyone else gets a pay cut - not for much longer! We have a real opportunity to challenge this. Ryanair may well make a lot more money per seat - they also spend over 15% of their takings on staff costs as opposed to 13.3% from easyJet. In other words old Ray, in keeping with his professional record to date, is barking completely up the wrong tree. Rather than take every possible opportunity to alienate his staff, he needs to recognise the enormous benefits of taking your people with you on the journey. The pilots would love to work with management to create a company where everyone benefits from easyJet's success rather than just 'Ali Baba and the 40 thieves'! Time will tell if Andy Harrison is going to follow in his footsteps. Mind you, we are not likely to forget dear old Ray as we've just spent some more of our profit painting a huge 'Ray Webster' over the front of one of our 737s. Good job there's no waste at easyLand! |
Guess what, folks. Signed up to Balpa this morning, just received my confirmation signed by Bridget Emmitt.
Colleagues told me that more than 55 pilots signed up last week alone. Now its 56 (at least)....:p Regards and happy landings, C3D |
As an addendum to the previous post, it appears that within 45 minutes of this mornings e-mail the first redundancies were escorted off the premises. Considering that the CAA have just finished the company audit confirming that the company is (or was) fit to hold an AOC, I wonder how such a reshuffle rests with them now. Even the CAA must see this as a pretty crafty move.
Bearing in mind the contempt with which this company treats its staff, I think they need to formally recind the statement that their staff are their most valuable asset. Clearly they are not. |
Congratulations to the large amount of new joiners to Balpa who have finally seen the light (and the easyJet management) for what it is. By sticking together we can exert a much larger influence and tell them what they so clearly need to know: we are serious and our claim is serious, and we will not be put aside.
Over 280 fellow pilots have left our ranks in the last 3 years, and it is time to stop the rot. Rememember, it was only when the boyz at Virgin ramped up in this way their message became heard: we deserve this rise, our conditions WILL be improved, and we will NOT take NO for an answer. Needless to say, the managers at VAA said they cannot afford it, and guess what, they somehow found the money and now everyone is happy. We may have to go through some pain to get there, but the larger the membership, the less the pain. The three airlines with the best T's and C's all have 90%+ membership. |
Autobrake3 - Escorted off the premises??!!!
I wonder if they will put that in their next silly 20 year book. Sometimes I wonder if they put something in their Orange-Ade over in easyLand that makes them all appear such shiney happy people. What an unbelievable way to treat people who have become inconvenient through no fault of their own. (Sort of like Boxer being sent to the knackers yard in Animal Farm) |
Those poor people being made redundant are just a part of RW's cynical brinkmanship. The next thing they will say to the CC is 'How can we give you pay rises when we are laying people off in easyland'
Dirty mind games from experts in the field. |
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Join BALPA now without delay. Whatever you may have thought about BALPA in the past, join if only just until the pay negotiations are completed and then re assess the situation.
This is a great opportunity to improve our ghastly terms and conditions and is the only way our pathetic management will listen. Membership levels are increasing at a rate of knots and there is a sense of unity amongst the pilot workforce at Easy, the likes of which have not previously been witnessed. Lets keep the momentum, if you know of anyone dragging their heels, now is the time to convince them. We have a superb CC in place and this time they will not accept a crap deal from an organistaion that pleads poverty, having just announced a 68 Million pound profit !:confused: |
And to all SFO's... If you are nearing command, or you have passed command and are on the eternal list waiting for a course, or you are hoping to get back to your base in less than 2 years...
There is strong evidence that easy are looking to recruit DEC's. BALPA will do everything they can to stop this, but this is only possible with support. |
Well, for several weekends recently it has been reported that CTC are doing DEC assessments in the sim at LTN. The Company assured us this would not happen especially in light of the near 100 or so SFO's waiting for a Command course date.
If this is true, it is yet another example that words like "loyalty", "defined career path" and "looking after one's own" have no place at easyJet. I also heard recently that at an easyJet recruitment day, only 5 of the 9 prospective pilots turned up, and only two of them were suitable. The hours required to join has slipped for 1500 to 500. Wonder why, when other airlines like BA and Virgin have applications up to their eyeballs. Just maybe the word has got around, at long last, what poor management we have and what a sh!!te place it is to work!! |
Day after day I arrive at work and see young men (and women) dead on their feet, clinging to a dream. This piece of c**p company feeds them with kiss in the ear propoganda.
Klink, I know your close enough to the action to not be a bulls**tter. If this d*gs*it company is recruiting DEC's again, well they deserve nothing less than what they have coming. easyJet is f****d without pilots. Witless drones that can sit in the office and sing ''Onward Orange Soldiers'' are two a penny. Without the people that have the passion to mortgage their lives for 50 to 100 grand for the opportunity to steer the silver bird through the night, any airline, not just eJ, is finished. Curse your blood Webster, and all your spineless sycophants. |
Hourly rate 737 pilots up 20% in one year...
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/37e4e9f0-5f...0abe49a01.html |
Just joined BALPA.
It is time to back up the CC !! I am fed up with these management's e-mail. And I feel insulted by their attitude and lies!! Wiiiiiiiings |
Wings 737,
I am pleased to hear that you have decided to join BALPA. It is only through a united front that we will be able to fight the continual errosion of out terms and conditions. Unless we stand firm we can expect a future of below industry standard pay, fatiguing rosters, dual basing and DECs with little scope for internal promotion. If anybody reading this is considering accepting a DEC at easyJet, you are not welcome For any pilots wanting to join BALPA here is a link to the online application form. |
@10002level
to be fair, you can not shout out to pilots (DEC applicants) to be not welcome! They are legally seeking for a job and do not know what PT has promised! It is the company which is totally responsible for this happening! So we shall focus on the company management! The "EZY continent pilots" should have especially interest to support BALPA/CC, because management is even looking for cutting/freezing their salaries! Is that "orange culture"? So, guys, from mainland Europe, get awake, join BALPA! :ok: |
Orange culture? I have to correct myself.
My impression of "orange culture" is mainly: paint everything you are able to see in orange!:O |
I flew last month with a new captain, hired three month ago, DEC from airberlin, and he wasn't Airbus rated!!! He is based in SXF. I am already looking for a new job, this company is fu..ing ridiculous. Happy jobhunting everybody!!! |
flywin,
once the lower salary on the continent is accepted you will have a command there soon, flying through the UK but starting and finishing your duty on the mainland. The next step will be an even more eastern european base with an even lower salary and maybe not G registered aircrafts |
I was just wondering about the maths of all this:
1. Are you undercrewed? 2. how long it would take to upgrade all the SFO's on their prefferd type to their preferred base. 3. How long would it take to replace those SFOs'. 4. At what rate are the aircraft coming/being replaced. 5. How many crews per a/c. Whilst i amy be devils advocate sometimes things are that way. I was at the wrong end of DEC whilst suitable for upgrade not once, but TWICE. |
EZY management started an interesting tactical approach!
By letting the majority of pilots (based in UK) know, that there could be a possibility to have a pay increase for UK Pilots, if only the "continent pilots" will not participate at a payincrease! This is from my point of view an attempt to split up the pilot community, therefore making the CC position for negotiatoins less powerfull! The "continent pilots" never "hunted" for a british contract, (indeed they never had a choice) because of the concerned problems of health insurance or social insurance not paid into the german social system (NI). I do hope, that the EZY pilot community will not jump on the trap of MS! |
1. Are you undercrewed?
Yes. We have a shortage of both seats, but in particular FO's. So many flights are flown with a Capt in the RHS. 2. how long it would take to upgrade all the SFO's on their prefferd type to their preferred base. 80 waiting, maybe 12 a month? It takes 1-2 years to get back to base (unless you are at LGW). 3. How long would it take to replace those SFOs'. eJ are having real trouble recruiting and keeping FO's. A post 3/03 SFO earns £35k with no increment. The only potential joiners now are the TP guys who fail to get a job anywhere else. Our conditions are right at the bottom of the pile (and an FO earns less again). So it could take forever. 4. At what rate are the aircraft coming/being replaced. Adding 1.1 a month. 5. How many crews per a/c. 5.3 across the network. Luckily we only get 20 days holiday and work well outside CAP371!! |
If the management is successful in dividing the workforce into separate groups, it will be impossible to negotiate better T&C´s for the future. Once split, forever split! Don´t let that happen!
I can imagine that new commands then are on the mainland only, maybe you can move back to the UK after 2 years or so but while based in Germany or Italy all new captains are on the lower continental salary while their families, their houses and possibly mortgages etc are still due in the UK......:bored: Must I say more? It is time to stand together and fight that proposal off! That´s why I joined Balpa last week. |
10002level.
You quote "If anybody reading this is considering accepting a DEC at easyJet, you are not welcome ." Your fight should be with easy NOT people applying for a job! |
eJ will have a major pilot shortage in 2006
Loss 12% of pilots in 2005 but gained 8% productivity so we are down 4% 56 pilots Fleet increasing 1.1 ac/m at 5.3 crew 140 pilots 70 pilots working notice 30 pilots in BA/Virgin pool If no one leaves in 2006 we need 296 pilots We interview 12 pilots at a time about 9 show from that we get about 2 pilots or 1 in 5 so to get 296 pilots we will have to interview 1480 pilots. eJ dropped the 1500 hr down to 500 but I don’t think that there are 1500 pilots with 500+ hrs looking for jobs and want to this type of work. |
Whilst it is not nice for those awating commands, you can see why theyhave to recruit DEC. The company could not function with its current rate of attrition/recruitment.
Ryanair are now paying their pilots from day 1. No longer waiting for base training. They have a big backlog of training also. Now is the time to fight for better T&C before the market takes its cyclical downturn. |
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