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Atlanta-Driver 5th April 2005 03:28

Dear Phil Squares. As you so nicely put it, you spent "Some" time with AAI years ago. So your info is probably not up to date.

Earl. Its been a while since you left to Kingdom of boredom. Things are chaging.

With permanent basing contracts now available with apartments AAI is increasingly catering for crews with families. DXB and KUL bases have both large nice 2-3 bedroom apartments for crews. Lots of wifes and kids on those places. Looks like LUX is going to get apartments as well.

Rosters have been holding, however what can company do if customer airline cancels or adds a flight. This is ACMI business and it is inherently different from normal airline flying. Works for some doesn't for others.

411A. Hows your 1011 company going... Our airplanes are flying, more than just a pipedream. We have heard your maintenance BS about 100 times. It is a load of garbage. Have anything new to say?

Formally Known As 5th April 2005 07:12

16 blades

Well, the previous "CP" was ex-military, so you would have been snapped up, real quick, if you are ex-mil. However the present "CP's" aviation back ground, not to mention experience,
is some what different,
If you are of the same race, you would, in all probability, be taken on without a tech and sim evaluation. Just a nice little chat, such is the extent of the neopotism within AAI.

Earl 5th April 2005 18:26

Atlanta Driver happy to hear things are finally changing there.
I do know that the ACMI business works a little different from the rest such as a major airline.
Family life is reallt important to a sucessful
operation.
Being away from home for months is not good.
My last base with AAI I seen my family for 8 days in a 6 month period.
So you can imagine everything else was a no go issue.
If the changes are being made to where your family can join you then its a big improvement.
When I first went to work with AAI I was LGW based, family was allowed.
It was one of the best jobs I ever worked.
Kingdom of Boredom?
We are more worried about the fanatics, no time to be bored.
Anyway happy to hear things are changing.

16 blades 5th April 2005 22:48

What does a newhire F/O take home per month, on average?

16B

montys ex teaboy 6th April 2005 01:49

F'''all, to answer your question.

16 blades 7th April 2005 00:27

Thanks. That's helpful.

16B

AAIGUY 7th April 2005 15:39

16B ,

It really depends on your backround, as an FO anywhere from 3500 to 6500 a month. If they type you and you have no time you start at 125 a day or something stupid. If you are typed you get atleast 175 usd a day and up.

aaaaa 7th April 2005 17:24

Can anyone say how many female Captains and FOs are employed and are they expected/allowed to go on Hadj flights?

aa

Earl 7th April 2005 18:16

I have seen a female cockpit crewmember
here in uniform but not with AAI.
Thats a big step for these people.
I am sure they would get over it really quick, they would have too.
Since 911 they realise they have to change..
We are starting to see women driving here also, but its only reported when they have an accident.
They are trying to change in KSA but its really slow.
Flying with the USAF during the first Gulf War their were many problems with this.
I would think this would be the next step all though one that should be approached with caution.
Culture is really hard to change for what ever reason.

c3000 8th April 2005 04:40

Cabin Crew
 
Hey guys,

Just a question. Do they hire internationals as cabin crew? I know that AAE just had a hiring blitz in the UK but as much as I love the UK; I'd like to be based elsewhere. In light of the reduction in the Hajj flights I was wondering if anything was going on there.

Thanks in advance.

M.

AAIGUY 8th April 2005 04:42

We have a number of female cockpit crew at AAI. I have no idea if any of them did Hadjj, but the offer of the Hadjj bonus did not say they couldn't so I suspect they may have.


C3000,

We do have international cabin crew. HOWEVER, almost all our pax flights are out of the UK at the moment. AAI is now 80% cargo and 20 % pax, if not higher on the cargo end. That being said, I am on the B747, The B757's may have a different deal..

Deske1 8th April 2005 06:18

I need some help,where to apply?

I have B747-400 F/O rating but only 250 hrs,TT 3000.

No JAA,only ICAO licence.

AAIGUY 8th April 2005 08:12

Without a JAR license you require 1500 hrs in a multi-pilot aircraft (ie 2 crew above 5700KG if not bigger). obviously with 250 in the -400 you only need 1250 more multi crew. Not sure if you have it or not. A number of guys were turned back last year by the ICAA for this reason.

If you do have it, give old Jerry a ring in LGW. He'll sort you out..sort of:uhoh:

Atlanta-Driver 8th April 2005 08:59

MPA= Multi Pilot Aircraft. 1500h requirement refers to expereience gained on aircraft type certified for 2 or more "pilots"(Flight Engineer time does not count) and usually refers to aircraft certified under FAR/JAR 25, that is transport category aircraft.

AD

510orbust 13th April 2005 14:21

course dates
 
Anyone know of any course dates being run for AAI or AAE

thanks 510

AAIGUY 13th April 2005 15:04

The same course is run for the AAE and AAI guys . Your class will be mixed.

I understand they are way behind in training. No idea about new hire courses

yoohoo748 13th April 2005 18:58

Time to upgrade and captain pay
 
Looking through this thread I've found both good and bad. Being recently out of a job I am on the search for a new place to hang my hat. Air Atlantic does interest me but I would like to know more about upgrades and captain pay. (I have over 7000 hours, 5000 PIC, 1500 medium jet with 1200 of that command, and an ICAO ATPL). Also, is the pay adjusted depending on which base you are currently assigned? Are you able to bid or request for certain bases? Am I right in assuming that some bases are of a very temporary nature where as others are almost permanent? Good and bad responses are appreciated as I know that there are usually two sides to every story.

Thanks in advance

Earl 14th April 2005 20:32

Yoohoo,
You have to go through the threads and make a decision.
I left AAI after many years, I am told that many changes have been made there now from some good sources.
When I was there towards the end it was not good.
They do pay your basic salary on time.
Do the Airbourne contract, Direct will not back you for anything if you encounter a problem.
Whatever the contract says with Direct they are nothing more than a Bank Transfer Company.
Even then you pay them to transfer your pay.
Was the main reason I resigned, got tired of the lies and bullshxxt.
They will tell you not to operate against the regulations but when the are put to the test the fail really bad.
No credibal backing what so ever, even if they know and admit you are correct.
They are only in it for the money.
Have many complaints to these people and was told that if I pushed these issues in my contract then it would be considered handshake money.
Never heard this from the Ace/Airbourne pilots.
Years ago they had credibility. not any longer.
You do get to go to some off the wall places that most never see.
A lot of fun if things have changed.

canadair 15th April 2005 08:39

and that is after! editing
love to see the before.:D

Whaledog 15th April 2005 16:35

aaiguy,
Confirm that was 125 -175 a day?? Are the wages that much out of sync with the states???


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