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CaptainCroft 15th Dec 2022 11:33

I just did my interview on the 14th December and no one really mentioned when to expect a result. So just wondering if you know how long it took yours or anyones to get a reply in terms of days.

Phantom4 15th Dec 2022 13:31

Someone last week,Sim Wednesday,phone call Thursday morning,course March.

Deporflyer 15th Dec 2022 21:25


Originally Posted by CaptainCroft (Post 11348298)
I just did my interview on the 14th December and no one really mentioned when to expect a result. So just wondering if you know how long it took yours or anyones to get a reply in terms of days.

Hi! Can you please share a light on the assessment process? Type of questions? ETC. Many thanks!

clvf88 15th Dec 2022 22:22

Does anyone know of any LH offers or is it all 320?

Byrne11 16th Dec 2022 00:19


Originally Posted by clvf88 (Post 11348707)
Does anyone know of any LH offers or is it all 320?

From colleagues who have went recently they were told 320. All had thousands of hours Boeing experience for what it’s worth.

Smooth Airperator 16th Dec 2022 12:44

Assessors are going around looking at LinkedIn profiles. Make sure yours is squeaky clean :O

Iflyplane 22nd Dec 2022 13:39

Has anyone who had an interview last week, heard anything back yet?

justinPOF 22nd Dec 2022 17:34

Interview 12th, sim invite email 16th. Sim dates available at the time 20 and 24 Dec but unable to attend on those days - no new dates seen since.

JPOF

Iflyplane 29th Dec 2022 20:44

Has anyone gone recently to the sim? Any feedback? Got mine next month 😅 Cheers

srjumbo747 3rd Jan 2023 11:24

What’s the current pay scale and pension contributions for DEP please?

ItsonlyMeagain 4th Jan 2023 10:25

Morning

Been meaning to ask since this thread opened. Direct Entry Pilot…..?

I am familiar with the term and have even been a Direct Entry Captain (DEC). Here the pilot joins as a Captain, leapfrogging all first officers already employed. However, Direct Entry Pilot? How else do you join?

I’m sure someone will tell me.

Me

clvf88 4th Jan 2023 10:42


Originally Posted by ItsonlyMeagain (Post 11359377)
Morning

Been meaning to ask since this thread opened. Direct Entry Pilot…..?

I am familiar with the term and have even been a Direct Entry Captain (DEC). Here the pilot joins as a Captain, leapfrogging all first officers already employed. However, Direct Entry Pilot? How else do you join?

I’m sure someone will tell me.

Me

Granted its a bit weird - I guess harks back to the days when new entrants would be via the cadet programme.

For what its worth - DECs don't leap frog anyone. They will always be junior to existing FOs in the company. They're simply filling LHS positions that no one currently in the company has bid for.

Busdriver01 4th Jan 2023 11:49

BA has DECs, DEPs and TEPs - Direct Entry Captains (rarely hired at mainline, though), Direct Entry Pilots and Trainee Entry Pilots. It's just a phrase used to distinguish a pilot who is qualified and experienced (and so joins directly on the Co-Pilot pay scales) and a trainee who requires a full type rating and significantly more line training, joining on the cadet pilot scales.

Confusious 4th Jan 2023 12:10


Originally Posted by eagle21 (Post 11343189)
Rumours of BA Cityflyer joining the BA mainline MSL to allow for a posible order of E195-E2s with over 134 seats (beyond scope agreement) and to address retention issues.

Does anyone else think that if this happens then BACF would have a perpetual recruitment problem?

VariablePitchP 5th Jan 2023 06:04


Originally Posted by Confusious (Post 11359467)
Does anyone else think that if this happens then BACF would have a perpetual recruitment problem?

The opposite?

bylgw 5th Jan 2023 07:02

Possibility: New entrants will be directed to CitiFlyer or EuroFlyer before being allowed to bid to the dangled mainline carrot.

Confusious 5th Jan 2023 09:16


Does anyone else think that if this happens then BACF would have a perpetual recruitment problem?

Originally Posted by VariablePitchP (Post 11359958)
The opposite?

I have a few friends there who are in the top half of the BACF seniority list and they have would bid straight into a long haul command. Training Captains and Management Pilots included. How would they be replaced?

Also, if I had sat it out in Mainline waiting for a long haul command then I would be a little peeved to get pushed back down the ladder.

BALPA will be piggy in the middle with this one.

Confusious 5th Jan 2023 09:19


Originally Posted by bylgw (Post 11359983)
Possibility: New entrants will be directed to CitiFlyer or EuroFlyer before being allowed to bid to the dangled mainline carrot.

It would have to be a no assessment rise to the almighty Big Airways because most BACF pilots do not jump through the traditional hoops successfully and then join other operators.

kendrick47247 5th Jan 2023 10:33


Originally Posted by Confusious (Post 11360066)
I have a few friends there who are in the top half of the BACF seniority list and they have would bid straight into a long haul command. Training Captains and Management Pilots included. How would they be replaced?

Also, if I had sat it out in Mainline waiting for a long haul command then I would be a little peeved to get pushed back down the ladder.

BALPA will be piggy in the middle with this one.

Date of joining =/= Seniority

What makes you think any CF pilot would leapfrog anyone? Given the previous unpalatable situation of the BMI joiners…

Confusious 5th Jan 2023 10:44


Originally Posted by eagle21 (Post 11343189)
Rumours of BA Cityflyer joining the BA mainline MSL to allow for a posible order of E195-E2s with over 134 seats (beyond scope agreement) and to address retention issues.


Originally Posted by kendrick47247 (Post 11360119)
Date of joining =/= Seniority

What makes you think any CF pilot would leapfrog anyone? Given the previous unpalatable situation of the BMI joiners…

I didn't start the PPRuNe rumour, see above 'Cityflyer joining the BA mainline MSL'. None of my friends have heard about this rumour BTW, so it could be a bit of wishful thinking by eagle21. Anyway, if you'd given 20 to 30 years service flying in the BA livery before and including CityFlyer would you accept being tagged onto the bottom of the list just so that BA could scrap the Scope Agreement? I wouldn't and I'd expect BALPA to fight my corner as I would if I were one of the Mainline pilots on the brink of a long haul command. CityFlyer pilots hold the trump card should a battle commence.


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