How can you be sure that the severity of your symptoms went up because of the vaccine? Maybe you would have died without it...

Just sayin'

At this time I see nothing out of the ordinary on Euromomo. So, so far so good…

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-m...res-by-country

Thanks, yes absolutely I will. being forced to take a medical intervention for commercial reasons goes against bodily autonomy.

when a good friends family member drops dead within 24 hrs of the shot due to cardiac arrest then I think I will stay well away thanks. Covid was just a bad cold for me.
in fact, I know of a few people that have been injured from the shot.
I also know of a family friend that sadly died of covid, she was triple vaccinated.
its interesting the CAA don't have a policy on the shot. they just refer to the MHRA. but when have the MHRA ever done a risk assessment for aviation matters? very odd?

Interesting! The office for national statistics are reporting : Through October there has been an average of 1564 extra deaths per week! Also a total of 24440 extra Non covid deaths since May 2022, its very interesting that the Media DO NOT report on this?? hmm......

I note the increased all-cause death rates now being reported at several countries around the world. I just like to have all the ducks in a row. As I say, so far, so good…

The Euromomo site warns that it lags a bit and not to trust the last couple of months indications as they are subject to being corrected and updated.


The New Zealand experience:

In 2019 there were 1,154 excess deaths compared to the long term trend

In 2020 there were 1,043 fewer deaths compared to the long term trend

In 2021 there were 533 excess deaths compared to the long term trend

In 2022 (up to the end of September), there have been 2,684 excess deaths


https://hatchardreport.com/new-zeala...-and-overseas/

You wont hear about this on MSM. Could get a bit costly for a few employers.

Sacked for not getting vaccinated. How did Covid spread in WA & QLD (both nil cases before borders opened) only opened to vaccinated people and non vaccinated people excluded from most settings.

Not sure how it can be classed as effective went like wild fire in both states - very few "normal people" were at any risk anyway.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4f0af84983.jpg

I don't know but maybe it's because of the covid policy other factors leading to excess deaths could decrease as a result of those in NZ, and there were no other stuff going on like normal flu's heatwaves etc so you'll see fewer excess deaths for 2020 and 2021...

Yep. Usually the year after a bad flu season there is a drop in all-cause numbers. An artefact of the flu causing the earlier death of those who were 12 to 24 months away from departing due other morbidities. The USA data supports that with at least 85% of those claimed dying ‘from’ the china virus having at least four other co-morbidities. Nothing like a bit of media and government induced hysteria giving a nocebo induced hurry along to the grave. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo

For my thoughts, I’d say still to early to tell just what the numbers are telling us for New Zealand. NZ had severely stupid lock-downs which may have just caused a lag in the inevitable. The current raise in all-cause may be an artefact of all the lock-down created un-diagnosed heart or cancer issues playing out… or it could be an artefact of the vaccines. I await Euromomo. https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-m...res-by-country. …where surprisingly there don’t appear to be much of that ‘post flu’ drop in numbers. What’s filling in the usual dip in the graph?

This thread has drifted well off topic: discussion on the Coronavirus generally can be made on this thread