Vaccination policy
 

Hi all, Im looking for help please and would like to get an idea on current uk airline vaccination policy’s (ones that fly international ideally) as a known operator is effectively mandating it and I believe no other airline is?

I really appreciate your input.

thanks AIrcart 👍🏻

Not being vaccinated will affect your ability to travel worldwide, and most employers would likely pick more suitable candidates for the role offered.

It's not just the airlines, it's entry requirements for each country you'll fly to you'll have to think about.

We all have choices but they come with consequences which you need to weigh up.

Thanks but the comments are way off the OP question?

Comments made are common sense however I am specifically looking to gain information on uk airline SARS-cov2 vaccination policy.... I.e: British airways for instance fly to China but do not require staff to declare their status? What are airline rules on booster jabs and subsequent re jab after 180 days etc etc.??

Thanks. AC

BA hasn't asked directly for my vax status, and I suspect that they wouldn't do so in an interview either. Being vaccinated is not listed as a requirement on their latest recruitment drive.

However, I've had to tell them indirectly, with whether or not I meet the "entry requirements" of XYZ destination so they know whether or not to remove me from the trip.

Employers cannot specifically ask due to GDPR rules. But clearly some destinations e.g. HKG/China need it. You need to make that choice therefore

Thank you for the information WVD 👍🏻

thanks, what happens if they do ask for that information? And what can they do with that information? Punitive action maybe?

Employers can only ask for the information for a 'specific purpose' - they would need to be able to justify what that purpose was. I would imagine that somewhere in the employment contract will be a condition about being able to meet the "entry requirements" of any countries they operate to and that would seem to be a justifiable reason. So if any require covid vaccination information as a condition of entry, failure to supply the information (or providing false information) would be a disiplinary matter.

Thanks, would this for instance be the same for entry into a country with ongoing military activity for instance? (Hypothetical)
Intrestingly they didn’t give a reason for needing to know.

Probably asking because someone who has declined a safe and effective vaccine neatly demonstrates particularly poor risk assessment and decision making skills, and this saves them the time and cost of interviewing them.

An interesting assumption considering questions were asked regarding booster requirements etc.
A well balanced, polarised and opinionated response! Very off topic.
No wonder some members get a bad name. 😆🤦‍♂️


Thanks for “Most” people’s reply’s so far 👍

An interesting article and seems to make all the Airline mandates a joke!
it’s also interesting that the first uk pilot got fired from a uk operatior for not taking the vaccine just two months ago!
Florida have just effectively banned the shot for 18-39 year olds!
here is the link:
https://www.floridahealth.gov/newsro...accine.pr.html

I haven't written on this site for a long time, but when I read trash like this -the vaccine is neither safe nor effective-go and do some research instead of reading popular rags and msm..There are more and more scientists proving just how bad these "vaccines" (I use the word advisedly because they changed the definition of the word.) are.
Let's just say if you think you are now safe having been "fully vaxed" , I would say be very careful as you have undoubtedly compromised you immune system.

I would suggest if you’ve been discriminated against for being unvaccinated, or being forced to be vaccinated, then keep all details of the company’s and individuals involved. You’ll need it for future class action litigation against those company’s and individuals.

;)

Here we are, well down the line.

There has been no widespread ill-effects of the vaccine. Certainly less so than those of COVID.

I hope some of you will reconsider your thoughts on deciding to side with crackpot conspiracy theories on the internet.

Science is real. The discoveries of scientists hold our planes aloft. Give the same respect to the other.

The only side affect I seem to be having since 5 shots of Pfizer is worse symptoms than my wife who had 0 shots. We've both had covid multiple times and it knocks me flat every time for a week. Her, she bounces back the next day.

I regret taking any of them, but was forced to by my employer. No ideas of the long term side affects, but I regret it, for the above reasons.

How can you be sure that the severity of your symptoms went up because of the vaccine? Maybe you would have died without it...

Just sayin'

At this time I see nothing out of the ordinary on Euromomo. So, so far so good…

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-m...res-by-country

Thanks, yes absolutely I will. being forced to take a medical intervention for commercial reasons goes against bodily autonomy.

when a good friends family member drops dead within 24 hrs of the shot due to cardiac arrest then I think I will stay well away thanks. Covid was just a bad cold for me.
in fact, I know of a few people that have been injured from the shot.
I also know of a family friend that sadly died of covid, she was triple vaccinated.
its interesting the CAA don't have a policy on the shot. they just refer to the MHRA. but when have the MHRA ever done a risk assessment for aviation matters? very odd?

Interesting! The office for national statistics are reporting : Through October there has been an average of 1564 extra deaths per week! Also a total of 24440 extra Non covid deaths since May 2022, its very interesting that the Media DO NOT report on this?? hmm......

I note the increased all-cause death rates now being reported at several countries around the world. I just like to have all the ducks in a row. As I say, so far, so good…

The Euromomo site warns that it lags a bit and not to trust the last couple of months indications as they are subject to being corrected and updated.


The New Zealand experience:

In 2019 there were 1,154 excess deaths compared to the long term trend

In 2020 there were 1,043 fewer deaths compared to the long term trend

In 2021 there were 533 excess deaths compared to the long term trend

In 2022 (up to the end of September), there have been 2,684 excess deaths


https://hatchardreport.com/new-zeala...-and-overseas/

You wont hear about this on MSM. Could get a bit costly for a few employers.

Sacked for not getting vaccinated. How did Covid spread in WA & QLD (both nil cases before borders opened) only opened to vaccinated people and non vaccinated people excluded from most settings.

Not sure how it can be classed as effective went like wild fire in both states - very few "normal people" were at any risk anyway.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4f0af84983.jpg

I don't know but maybe it's because of the covid policy other factors leading to excess deaths could decrease as a result of those in NZ, and there were no other stuff going on like normal flu's heatwaves etc so you'll see fewer excess deaths for 2020 and 2021...

Yep. Usually the year after a bad flu season there is a drop in all-cause numbers. An artefact of the flu causing the earlier death of those who were 12 to 24 months away from departing due other morbidities. The USA data supports that with at least 85% of those claimed dying ‘from’ the china virus having at least four other co-morbidities. Nothing like a bit of media and government induced hysteria giving a nocebo induced hurry along to the grave. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo

For my thoughts, I’d say still to early to tell just what the numbers are telling us for New Zealand. NZ had severely stupid lock-downs which may have just caused a lag in the inevitable. The current raise in all-cause may be an artefact of all the lock-down created un-diagnosed heart or cancer issues playing out… or it could be an artefact of the vaccines. I await Euromomo. https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-m...res-by-country. …where surprisingly there don’t appear to be much of that ‘post flu’ drop in numbers. What’s filling in the usual dip in the graph?

This thread has drifted well off topic: discussion on the Coronavirus generally can be made on this thread