Alright so my banking metaphor wasn’t great! The appeal (as has always been) of BA is the longevity and variety your career can have there, along with a decent paycheque. I’m not saying that anyone is forced into applying, but it doesn’t make sense to me that a new entrant would be presented with a pay scale and then told that a random, incalculable percentage will be deducted monthly from now until retirement. Internally, whilst still an awful deal, it was at least accepted by the union and its members. Isn’t the delta up for negotiation at present anyhow? Surely it can’t last much longer.

In terms of multiple scales; just playing devil’s advocate but it sounds like a great way to divide pilots and reduce faith in the union. Not that the company would like to do that or anything…

not saying it’s fair, but applications are inundated and this thread is full of people desparate to apply at any cost (even when people applying weakens Balpas negotiating position) so that all that really needs to be said … some sheep will do anything even when warned by multiple sources.

BA has always been inundated by applications whenever DEP opens up, and frankly I can’t see that changing anytime soon. Whilst things are far from rosy at BA, and weren’t when I was there, you only have to visit for instance, the Middle East forum to see that the grass isn’t necessarily greener elsewhere.

That’s not to say there are no better options out there, that depends on your views and your situation…a young, single person with no financial commitments could view BA in a very different light to someone with a mortgage and family in their mid 30s…

As for BALPA/BA ….no comment.

Applications don’t weaken too much. It’s weakened only if those guys actually accept a contract with the Delta. If all applicants refused it, it would strengthen their position. However, sadly I can’t see many purple Airbus operators refusing a contract even with the pay cut.

I mean an application to ba is as good as accepting it. Huge interest to join the company hardly does balpas case justice….

same principle different label whatever

Does anyone have any info on the current hold pool? Particularly now that DEP vacancies are being advertised.

Holdpool update email
 

Hey guys and girls,

Did anyone else receive the holdpool email saying they need to reapply for the position in the holdpool?

I got this last night.

Also - has anyone here converted their license from EASA to CAA? I applied last month but wondering how long this usually takes atm?

Cheers!

I haven’t received an email.

Is it asking you to re-apply for the job from the beginning, or is there a process to re-apply to stay in the hold pool?

If you completed the process and hold a conditional offer then it’s only the latter

I know a few gone through that recently and took them 6 months!!!

Speaking from my own personal experience, 6 months is about right

Took me best part of a year (that was back in 2020)

Surprised no one has mentioned this yet…


https://careers.ba.com/job/gatwick/b...48/35001507168

Any chance of non rated DEC?!🤣

Where do they think they are going to get Current A320 Captains from other than perhaps Wiz?

From that page:

• Height between 1.57m (5’2”) and 1.91m (6’3”). Qualified pilots taller than 1.91m may submit an application but will be required to undergo a functionality check to confirm their ability to meet requirements of the searing positions in the BA Euroflyer fleet.
• Good level of physical fitness
• Spoken and written English ICAO level 6

"searing positions"? Gosh I know the BA LGW fleet is old, but it doesn't even have air conditioning???

Maybe the person who wrote the job advert should get their ICAO level 6 English sorted???

Anyone know what the current T&C are for euroflyer? Is it still similar to the 2021 deal or have they started to improve it so they can have a chance to actually bring people over for it?

"Competitive"

Has anyone heard anything back from them yet?

Guessing HR have taken a long weekend due to the public holiday as there were no extra assessments added this week.

Very few non front line (ie on the day cabin / flight crew, ops, crewing) managers at BA work weekends or bank holidays.

I'm sure normal service will resume from 9am tomorrow, Tuesday, morning. Probably after a cup of Earl Grey.

As has every other HR department in the country. It might be annoying but it’s not unreasonable..!

If it is competitive and the same as their 2021 offer then definitely will not be ticking the box for willing to accept Euroflyer...

Never meant it to come across as unreasonable, everyone's entitled to public holidays. I was simply giving a reason to why someone hadn't heard back from them yet.

Anyone know which sim being used,744 or 767?

They're using the 787 sim I've heard

Really, I wouldn't worry about what it is. If you've made it through the application, tests, group exercises and interview then HR have said OK. Now just prove to the single examiner you are a normal competent pilot and you'll be OK.

Has anyone in the holdpool had any recent updates?

Just the email with the link to reply by the 31st August for DEP Holdpool…

Still had to answer the question - why BA, why now, what can you bring?

Apart from that - haven’t heard anything. Not sure if they will be in touch to say if successfully back in the holdpool?

Bit confusing because the email before said - ‘as you were in the holdpool you do not have to reapply’

Also all holdpool have been extended now 12 more months the same email said…

With respect,I’m not sure about that.The TRE will judge the detail independently and the HR comment is a throw away line.

OR, completely ignore this advice, and prepare as diligently as you have for every other stage of the process

I can’t read other people’s minds, but I would interpret that advice as being focus on your core flying skills / CRM / decision making rather than which particular sim you will be assessed on.

You could go and find a 787 sim and practise some raw data on that etc. but I suspect it wouldn’t make that much difference what Boeing type you elected to do any practise on. Besides the sim used for assessment might be changed at short notice..

If you’re currently flying the line you could do some of your ‘practise’ at work.

Has anyone got any insider knowledge of assessment dates? Been almost three weeks since the first three dates were proposed and radio silence since then.

So from what I’m hearing it seems BA are not sticking to their promises of prioritising people who were already at the end of the assessment for new assessment dates.

anyone else who was at stage 3 pre covid heard anything since the re opening?

Has anyone go any info on the new style psychometric tests that are done at home?

I have received an email that my application has passed the screening phase and to book an assessment when slots become available. I had thought this was an in person aptitude/maths test. I now see people mentioning a test to be done at home?

did you have an application in pre covid?

I did not, I take it the home test is for those that did?

Interesting. I’m not sure, I was at stage 3 pre covid but not heard anything since they re opened annoyingly

Yes I also applied in July. It has taken about 6 weeks but at least so far so good with the response!