Originally Posted by Potatos_69
(Post 11265471)
I didn't receive anything, although it looked like my account lapsed while swimming...
Was this just for guys going through the assessments or for people who passed and were swimming in the pool as well? I will still be chucking another application in but would love a touch more clarity and would prefer not to bother Lucy and recruitment team for nothing if info has already come out... I understand you don’t want to bother recruitment, but at the end of the day there is now a live campaign underway, so they should be expecting queries, and able to get back to you. |
Originally Posted by maxpeck
(Post 11265469)
What is a ZFT qualifying aircraft? Is it only for TR pilots. I've got 6000 737 time.
Thanks could be wrong (don't have manuals to hand) but it's a CS-25 aircraft, 10t MTOW or 19 seats or more. |
Originally Posted by Jwscud
(Post 11265451)
The advantage potentially of accepting Euroflyer could be an earlier start date. Seniority being everything, take the first available offer was the old advice. That’s tempered by financial circumstances at LGW and the potential of a type change if the 737 rumours are true leading to a 6 year freeze just to move to Heathrow short haul if you so wish rather than the old-fashioned ability to move bases after a year.
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Originally Posted by thetimesreader84
(Post 11265481)
Youll be fine.
could be wrong (don't have manuals to hand) but it's a CS-25 aircraft, 10t MTOW or 19 seats or more. |
Originally Posted by Jwscud
(Post 11265451)
The advantage potentially of accepting Euroflyer could be an earlier start date. Seniority being everything, take the first available offer was the old advice. That’s tempered by financial circumstances at LGW and the potential of a type change if the 737 rumours are true leading to a 6 year freeze just to move to Heathrow short haul if you so wish rather than the old-fashioned ability to move bases after a year.
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Originally Posted by BAreject
(Post 11265484)
737's are not going to Gatwick. They're linked to the Europa acquisition.
If I were trying to make money with a new startup, flying 5 hour sectors in 20 year old jets wouldn’t be how I’d like to do it. |
Are you supposed to apply to both the EF and mainline openings or apply for your preferred option only?
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I could only apply for one. Didn't let me do both so I assume you go with your preference.
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Originally Posted by maxpeck
(Post 11265778)
I could only apply for one. Didn't let me do both so I assume you go with your preference.
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All vacancies will be on SH. LH will be heavily oversubscribed by internal bidders.
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Salary figures given for Gatwick are accurate, but any LHR figure is likely to be affected by the current delta deduction of circa 7.5% to basic salary for the foreseeable. This applies to all LHR pilots. |
Originally Posted by Chief Willy
(Post 11265896)
All vacancies will be on SH. LH will be heavily oversubscribed by internal bidders.
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Originally Posted by Tay Cough
(Post 11265902)
As things currently stand, this salary “Delta” is to remain in place until 2028. Caveat emptor.
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Originally Posted by 3Greens
(Post 11265945)
BA have often recruited straight onto LH. it’s annoying if you’re currently an internal bidder but there’s nothing in BLR or the MOA to prevent it.
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Originally Posted by Chief Willy
(Post 11265969)
I am well aware of that. But this year all external vacancies are planned to A320. Nearly the entire P32L list is free to bid, and 80% of them want to go longhaul.
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Personally the recruiting manager has form on recruiting directly into LH as no one wants to join BA SH as it is such an awful lifestyle. The manager ignores agreements and just seems to do what he wants. This is obviously all done with the acceptance of BA senior managers.
life in BA is pretty dire at the moment. Rostering is a nightmare. Everyone seems to be on endless reserves. No one answers the phones or responds to the ridiculous Pilot Comms Portal. But we do get some patronising emails from our so called managers claiming they know how tough it is. If you do join get onto the 787/350 as these are the golden high efficiency fleets and if you are lucky you’ll get given a course 6 months down the line while others in the company are kicked out!! There’s is recession coming!!) Honestly BA it just a brutal awful company. Why anyone would join is beyond me. |
Originally Posted by no sponsor
(Post 11266163)
Honestly BA it just a brutal awful company. Why anyone would join is beyond me.
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Just to reinforce the above posts…
As things stand, anyone joining right now is signing up to years of open-ended and variable pay cuts. Even if you can find our current pay scales (and good luck with that, because I can’t) they are meaningless: the ‘Delta’ that BA imposed during Covid - ‘negotiating’ with a gun held to BALPA’s head - means we are still paying for the privilege of having our industrial agreements upheld. Nobody knows for how long and how much, and despite endless and meaningless soothing messages from management, there’s no sign of it changing. Be sure to ask them about Delta at your interview. I’ve worked for several airlines and some other big companies (much bigger than BA) before getting into aviation. The management culture here is truly toxic, and worse than anywhere I’ve ever experienced. |
I am glad the above posters are sharing the truth to any potential joiners from within the airline. I said much the same in the ACMI thread and got lambasted as a Fanboy of Yorkshire Airlines but the reality is you would have to be nuts to leave a decent airline job to go to BA these days. TP guys will go obviously if given the chance as its a step up but who the hell would volunteer for SH BA on those payscales and live anywhere near London for the next 6 years or whatever, you'd really have to be short on options, and sense
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Originally Posted by no sponsor
(Post 11266163)
life in BA is pretty dire at the moment. Rostering is a nightmare. Everyone seems to be on endless reserves.
Edit: if you have any LHR rosters you’re willing to share please DM me |
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