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illtellyouhowitis 24th Jan 2019 10:58

Thinking of applying to Ryanair direct captain.
 
Hi,

Go easy on me, been a long time since I applied for a job.
Does anyone have any info on the recruitment assessment days and a copy of a typical roster for a captain?

Also, any useful info will greatly be appreciated.

Many thanks

aviationfanatic 25th Jan 2019 07:15

You are better off contacting them directly

skyflyer737 25th Jan 2019 08:52

I can’t offer much advice on recruitment assessment days apart from the fact it’ll be a straight forward interview and sim in either Dublin or Stansted.

Unless you’re on a mobile (floating) base contract, you’ll be on a 5 days on / 4 days off roster. One block of earlies / 4 days off / one block of lates / 4 off etc etc.

For Direct Entry Capt you can have your choice of contract (ie directly employed or agency) and pretty much your choice of base. They may not offer you the base you want but if you make it a condition that you won’t join unless you get it, you probably will.

You’ll fly typically 800-890 hours a year and it’ll be a mix of 2 and 4 sector days. Back to your home base every day with occasionally a week out of your home base which (if you’re directly employed) will mean hotels and transport provided by the company. If you’re an agency contractor you have to sort out accommodation yourself and you receive €30 per scheduled block hour additionally to pay for hotels etc.

Mobile contract is a 5/5 roster and you’ll change base frequently.

skyflyer737 26th Jan 2019 06:37

The CLA allows a percentage of new entrants to a base to be direct entry Captains - it’s written in the agreement. Huge growth is still planned and they are still running roadshows worldwide which implies they are desperate for new entrants in the left seat. Granted, the odd base will not be available but I’d bet most are. It’s January, the schedule is quiet and guys are still being asked to work days off. Most applications for unpaid leave seem to have been denied despite the opposite message coming from management.

BleedingOn 26th Jan 2019 09:44

How much cash does a captain get for working a day off?

skyflyer737 26th Jan 2019 09:59


Originally Posted by BleedingOn (Post 10371321)
How much cash does a captain get for working a day off?

Varies quite a lot between bases. Some around €600 per day. Stansted is £396 at the moment.

doniedarko 27th Jan 2019 04:39

A sudden glut of type rated Captains ???....where did these guys come from

Clementijn 27th Jan 2019 08:03

Primera Air?

BluSdUp 27th Jan 2019 12:17

Sick
Finally RYR gets a Union, if it being rather the light version, for now. And the first thing that happen is a DEC starts sobbing and votes with his feet: GOOD!
If You could even imagine how some RYR pilots hate these semi qualified DEC , getting everything served on a plate to them ...
Good riddance
In a proper airline with a proper CLA there is no need for DECs. RYR has plenty of potential CPs. The problem is the smart ones leave, I wonder why?

MaverickPrime 27th Jan 2019 12:44


Originally Posted by BluSdUp (Post 10372413)
Sick
Finally RYR gets a Union, if it being rather the light version, for now. And the first thing that happen is a DEC starts sobbing and votes with his feet: GOOD!
If You could even imagine how some RYR pilots hate these semi qualified DEC , getting everything served on a plate to them ...
Good riddance
In a proper airline with a proper CLA there is no need for DECs. RYR has plenty of potential CPs. The problem is the smart ones leave, I wonder why?

BA/VS/TCX/TUI etc are 'proper' airlines with 'proper' CLAs.......

Your career earnings at Ryanair or Easyjet will be much higher,

The much vaunted rostering system at BA seems to be more unstable (unless you've 3000 years seniority and are fortunate enough to be able to pass the class 1 when you're an old man) than the fixed patterns at Easy or Ryan,

Seem to fly as many hours at these gold standard airlines as at Easy or Ryan,

Not many night stops at Easy or Ryan last time I heard,

Need I go on?

To be quite honest I'd like to see the Unions Foxtrot Oscar, they seem to make a bigger bloody mess of things for the pilots than the management!

sonicbum 27th Jan 2019 13:47


Originally Posted by MaverickPrime (Post 10372442)
Need I go on?

To be quite honest I'd like to see the Unions Foxtrot Oscar, they seem to make a bigger bloody mess of things for the pilots than the management!

Must be amazing to make that guy richer day by day.


The Foss 27th Jan 2019 14:08


Originally Posted by BluSdUp (Post 10372413)
Sick
Finally RYR gets a Union, if it being rather the light version, for now. And the first thing that happen is a DEC starts sobbing and votes with his feet: GOOD!
If You could even imagine how some RYR pilots hate these semi qualified DEC , getting everything served on a plate to them ...
Good riddance
In a proper airline with a proper CLA there is no need for DECs. RYR has plenty of potential CPs. The problem is the smart ones leave, I wonder why?

a point worth considering - base transfers are soon to be done based on date of joining rather than date of request or any other method they felt like using before. So if you are after one of the smaller, over-requested bases don’t be fooled into taking one you don’t want with a verbal assurance that they’ll do their best to get you your preferred base in a year or so.

Finally a step in the right direction in trying to retain the staff they already have, it’s infuritating to see great guys leaving because they can’t get the base they want, to see DEC coming into those exact same bases.

The Foss 27th Jan 2019 14:27


Originally Posted by midnight cruiser (Post 10372517)
blusdup - you seem to be someone who loves to hate! - but the fact is that for quite some time, there has not been a sufficient supply of FOs ready to upgrade, so DECs haven't hampered anyone. What's more, I'm told that the incident rate, unnecessary diversion/delay/AOG rate, fuel burn, and erm... '"eccentric" and expensive' command decision rate, is much the highest amongst new internal upgrades.

Agreed re not enough FOs with command hours to upgrade, but part of the reason for them all leaving is they know they will only be offered undesirable bases, whilst the DEC can generally pick wherever they like.
Incidentally I think your info regarding the second part is a bit off, DECs have definitely been causing more issues than internal upgrades unfortunately.

hec7or 27th Jan 2019 15:13


I think your info regarding the second part is a bit off, DECs have definitely been causing more issues than internal upgrades unfortunately.
depends on the issues to which you refer, I understand that after 2 years, a DEC is classed as RYR and no longer included in the stats.

BluSdUp 27th Jan 2019 16:02

Midnight Cruiser
 
I do not love to hate, but I could come across as that. I do resent a lot that goes on in our industry, yes.
But lately not so much as I have elevated myself above it, Arrogant one might say!
I can live with that, as I am interested in what is right and what is wrong.

" Empirically I think my info is right" you say!
That statement is logically wrong and so is most of your info, but hey, feel free to make up any info you feel, if that makes you happy!
Some has been waiting a long time for some fair and predictable future in this business.

act700 28th Jan 2019 10:49

Quick question, after you got your license(s), did you pay for any part of your job, such as the type rating?

samca 28th Jan 2019 17:31


Originally Posted by act700 (Post 10373267)
Quick question, after you got your license(s), did you pay for any part of your job, such as the type rating?

you pay for your medical, uniform and every time you jump to the sim for the accommodation, meals and transportation... good luck!

BluSdUp 28th Jan 2019 18:23

act700
 
If You are asking me , I never did pay a cent for any type rating or any sim course or base training.
Had a 3 year bond once, but stayed on that particular type for 4 years so no issues.
A professional pilot is by definition paid for his work, or am I to old fashioned?
Why are you asking?
Did You?


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