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El Capitano 15th Oct 2018 13:25

Ryanair let cabin crew sleep on the floor.
 
Again a disrespect for their personnel at the highest level by Ryanair.

During the passover of the remains of a tropical storm in Portugal, due to the very bad weather several planes could not depart and both crew and passengers were stranded.

Ryanair let the cabin crew sleep on the floor and promised that they could later use the VIP room to rest. This VIP room closed at 2300 and so all cabin crew had to spend the night at the floor.

Ryanair explained that due to the many stranded airplanes all hotels were full. A bit strange at a city and their surroundings with over 400 hotels!

Again an example where Ryanair does not take care for their personnel. Instaid, it treats them like slaves.

Ryanair cabin crew and pilots, when will this stop?
Get yourself united and arrange a pan European long lasting strike, no base excluded!

Get this know by the general public and politicians, keep on organising actions till you get this scam management out!

E.C.

wiggy 15th Oct 2018 14:36

Do we know if these crewmembers slept on the floor and then subsequently operated?

If so I’d be thinking FTLs, rest and definitions of things such as “suitable accommodation”....

Skipname 15th Oct 2018 15:32

Ryanair and "suitable accommodation" do not go in the same sentence.

If you ever go through Stansted Airport you will see Ryanair's cabin crew trying to sell you priority boarding and train tickets. All those cabin crews are on airport standby and are forced to mingle with passengers which is in breach of FTL. It is not uncommon to be called up to fly after few hours of selling priority boarding and train tickets.
Also until recently Ryanair did not have an FTL compliant crew room in Stansted for the crew on airport standby. Now they do, but there is not enough room for all the crew on airport standby.

Few years ago I sent a complaint about it to IAA but I have never heard back from them.

fox niner 15th Oct 2018 15:40


rotorwills 15th Oct 2018 15:58

I can't believe that. Seen many things in my time but this very near the top. It's a disgrace if this photo and the postings are true. I am very sceptical about this. I checked the date, no we are not in April. Surely someone will come on and tell us it was a stunt. Please own up for my sake alone.

ShyTorque 15th Oct 2018 16:09

Cabin crew aren't there to sell tickets, they are there for the safety of the passengers. As such they should be afforded the same rest facilities as the cockpit crew. Hopefully the CAA will put a stop to this sort of management stupidity.

Auxtank 15th Oct 2018 16:23


Originally Posted by rotorwills (Post 10283835)
I can't believe that. Seen many things in my time but this very near the top. It's a disgrace if this photo and the postings are true. I am very sceptical about this. I checked the date, no we are not in April. Surely someone will come on and tell us it was a stunt. Please own up for my sake alone.

According to the Express 20 mins ago;

"The post was also shared on Twitter and called on Ryanair's chief of operations, Peter Bellew, to explain. He replied with a tweet, confirming the photo was real. Bellew posted:
“Unfortunately. All hotels were completely booked out in Malaga. The storm created huge damage in Portugal. Later after this the crew moved to VIP lounge. Apologies to the crew we could not find accommodation.”
Peter Bellew, Ryanair's chief of operations"

Mr Angry from Purley 15th Oct 2018 17:35

If they flew the next day the IAA would have FR by the short and curly's. These things do happen in extremis but where were the Nigel's. Any Captain I know would have been ranting at the Company until the situation was fixed.

172_driver 15th Oct 2018 17:36


Originally Posted by Auxtank (Post 10283856)
According to the Express 20 mins ago;

"The post was also shared on Twitter and called on Ryanair's chief of operations, Peter Bellew, to explain. He replied with a tweet, confirming the photo was real. Bellew posted:
“Unfortunately. All hotels were completely booked out in Malaga. The storm created huge damage in Portugal. Later after this the crew moved to VIP lounge. Apologies to the crew we could not find accommodation.”
Peter Bellew, Ryanair's chief of operations"

I bet in his next internal memo he was pleased by the crew bringing the plane and pax back to base the following morning ;)

The photo may be staged for media. Unless they're sharing bodily warmth because of an unheated crew room, I can't believe they snuggle up like that. Still doesn't change the fact they had no proper place to rest and most likely operated next day.


Skipname 15th Oct 2018 17:50


Originally Posted by Mr Angry from Purley (Post 10283891)
If they flew the next day the IAA would have FR by the short and curly's. These things do happen in extremis but where were the Nigel's. Any Captain I know would have been ranting at the Company until the situation was fixed.

I wouldn't hold my breath. I suspect IAA are deep into Ryanair's pocket.

Jwscud 15th Oct 2018 20:37


Originally Posted by 172_driver (Post 10283892)


I bet in his next internal memo he was pleased by the crew bringing the plane and pax back to base the following morning ;)

The photo may be staged for media. Unless they're sharing bodily warmth because of an unheated crew room, I can't believe they snuggle up like that. Still doesn't change the fact they had no proper place to rest and most likely operated next day.


In some airlines that would be considered almost monkish behaviour. Plenty of crew enjoy sharing a bit of mutual warmth during layovers, unanticipated or otherwise :}

fox niner 15th Oct 2018 20:55

This Peter Bellew Ryanair executive is lying.
there were 1800+ hotel rooms in the malaga area that night. Also, the crew was not moved to the Vip lounge as it was closed after 2300 hours. So they ended up under these printers.

172_driver 15th Oct 2018 20:55


Originally Posted by Jwscud (Post 10284046)


In some airlines that would be considered almost monkish behaviour. Plenty of crew enjoy sharing a bit of mutual warmth during layovers, unanticipated or otherwise :}

You must be working for a British airline, that's where all stories I have heard come from... :}

Satoshi Nakamoto 15th Oct 2018 21:02


Originally Posted by 172_driver (Post 10284057)


You must be working for a British airline, that's where all stories I have heard come from... :}

It is obvious to anyone with half a brain that this photo has been staged.

TBSC 15th Oct 2018 21:42


Originally Posted by fox niner (Post 10284056)
This Peter Bellew Ryanair executive is lying.
there were 1800+ hotel rooms in the malaga area that night.


Says (or in fact guesses) a 20 yo aerosexu .. err 'aviation analyst' without any proof.


TBSC 15th Oct 2018 21:50


Originally Posted by Mr Angry from Purley (Post 10283891)
Any Captain I know would have been ranting at the Company until the situation was fixed.

And if (seemingly) it did not work out he/she would step up and lead the crew to one of those available hotels on their own expense. Who cares if (or when) you'd get reinbursed if the other choice is the floor of the crew room?
Btw IMHO it's a staged photo. Quite unrealistic to sleep in such strange position, shoes on, so close to each other (when plenty of space is availabe around) and with the lights on.

Elephant and Castle 16th Oct 2018 06:55


It is obvious to anyone with half a brain that this photo has been staged.
What is obvious is who you are :

Join Date: Oct 2018
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But say you are correct and they did not sleep like that on the floor, they just stood around all night waiting for sunrise. Does that make it any better?

highfive 16th Oct 2018 07:16

Allegedly:
Ryanair belittle crew.
Ryanair assist crew into demeaning themselves.
Ryanair belittle customers
Ryanair despise and disparage its employees.

Regrettably, professional trained airline crew turn a blind eye and work there, despite the many alternatives available in the employment market.

The classic case of Stockholm syndrome?

Folks you really need to look at yourselves, and ask Why ?

richardthethird 16th Oct 2018 07:25

Well said. The whole world is recruiting! Why stay at this shower of ****e?

compton3bravo 16th Oct 2018 07:35

Living just along the coast from Malaga I can assure everyone that there were plenty of rooms available, you might have to take a short taxi ride ( more expense) but the rooms would be definitely cheaper than Malaga city (except Marbella area). Even if the photo was partly staged you cannot blame them for the way they were treated. Absolutely disgusting.


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