The people from past 24 months’ bankruptcies hardly changed anything on the european market as there’s been more than enough expansion to hoover up the surplus. Plus you will always have some % heading to asia and ME.

CP

when you say watch that space...???

whats wrong woth the eurowings contract?
they paid my type and I start with 4300euro, plus around 400-500 per diem per month. Home every night and at least 10 days of per month. Parttime options available.

Guess you’re assuming that’s a gross figure - which it may well be. Probably ok for me to then assume that as he/she brought up the fact eurowings paid for their type rating, they’re also a cadet/newly qualified pilot.

Exactly how much do you think newbies should be getting paid? 4300 gross a month plus about 5000/yr in per diem is probably on par (if not more) with what BA pay their whitetail cadets?

Another reason being the ideology that just because you forked out £100k in training you’re suddenly entitled to certain T&C’s. Think it’s safe to say you enjoy exaggerating a bit. To be clear, they didn’t say that was a gross figure and certainly didn’t say it was the top possible earnings on the RHS in Eurowings. They actually said that’s what they ‘start’ on. My gut reaction was that it’s wasn’t too bad to start with and they were only defending Eurowings from an earlier comment. For some reason you’re assuming a lot in the glass half empty direction. Personally having flown for over 10 years of which 6 have been on the left I find the job easy. Ok sometimes it’s windy and icy on landing but planning properly tends to nullify the stress. Continuous training and checking? The handful of sims a year (which I find are beneficial to me more than my employer), a yearly medical and (for me now) a line check every other year is hardly demanding. Let’s be honest on a normal sector- what % of the job is stressing you out?

FWIW if I fly with a FO with 10 years experience now, alarm bells start to ring long before I worry about what they make.

I remember a time my ex was unemployed for a short spell and on the phone with someone regarding her unemployment benefit. When that person asked her how many hours her partner worked a week, she was told that I too could claim unemployment (or jobseekers) benefit. Wouldn’t have been wise to do so while also making a 6 figure salary but hopefully you get the point...

Yeah I’m aware- the reason I mentioned that story was to show that even the authorities think we work part time hours.