Jet2.com
 

I'd be very grateful if someone could pm me with the current pay scales for Jet2 or alternatively where I can find them. I'm a BALPA member but can't find it on their website.

Many thanks

I know you said to PM but it's in the public domain anyway so I don't see the harm in putting it here.

This seems fairly up to date.

http://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/jobs/Jet2.com

There is a spreadsheet on the BALPA website for members! Although, I wouldn't worry about finding it, it was compiled in 2012 and seemed to be out of date.

PPJN is pretty accurate.

There are a couple of items reported in PPJN on JET2 that do not appear to have been announced by the airline company. If anyone can confirm the news, it would be gratefully received. Also of the 700 job cuts, how many of these are pilots?

According to PPJN:

News item1:
Current Situation: In the coming days the company will be announcing plans for job cuts of up to 700 employees from UK and abroad and the restructure of the business. Plans to reduce the size of its fleet to cut cost.

News Item 2:
Orders: A321 acquisitions cancelled.

Unfortunately any man or his dog can can post on PPJN. By the way, somebody needs to tell the engineers to stop painting and spannering the new jets, as social media says they are not needed🤣

PPJN figures are accurate, last year in July we received the profit share which equated to a month's basic salary or a 13th month if you like, obviously this year, not.

As for the Ppjn news items it is impossible to verify as anybody can edit that site but there has been no official announcements from the company as you said.

DjerbaDevil

Sad that in the current climate you would be grateful to receive confirmation of this news, would it not be better to have a confirmation that it was incorrect?

As Whitemonk says, the salary figures are correct. As for the “news”, Balpa contacted all members working for Jet2 to point it out, and to also point out that so far in all their communications with the company there has been no mention of redundancies. Whilst that is no proof that they won’t happen there would have to be a 45/90 day consultation period. As that hasn’t been announced yet if it is happening the only people who know about it are probably at the level of DFO / Chief pilot and above, and they are unlikely to be leaking it on ppjn.

PPJN 031/05/2020

Jet2.com Pilot Jobs Situation

last update

Current Situation: Difficult outlook due to Corona. Company keen to restart flying ASAP. No confirmed pilot redundancy plans.

Outlook: Unlikely to be recruitment until 2021

Overall Hiring Situation (+ve/neutral/-ve): Neutral

JET2 cuts
 

Any news on pilot job cuts at Jet2 ?

Yes. Redundancies!

Good luck to all involved if the news is correct, I worked with some tremendous people in the short time I was there.
Remember every airline is going through similar, the call sign, paint scheme and type is all that is different.

Seen the company letter, not good news, good luck to all concerned.

My thoughts go to everyone affected. What are the numbers?

102 pilots and 222 in Holiday House/LFFH so far.

edit: 380 cabin crew as well (fixed seasonal contracts)

Both fleets?

All fleets affected in some way, from Balpa:

26/22 Airbus Captains/FOs
27/27 Boeing Captain/FOs

Seems like purely LIFO.

5 of 7 planned Airbus are not coming for now, three 737s also and two 757s to be retired, the latter more or less in line with previous plans.

70% for everyone else until the end of 2020, no communication from the company so far but news only dropped to all staff this morning so BALPA begin negotiations on Friday.

Are there reports that the owner has had to sell off parts of the company too?

Hopefully BALPA can intervene and negotiate an across the board arrangement rather than the company cutting anyone adrift. In the current climate that’s a total disaster for anyone who is unlucky enough to be shed. Jet 2 are a big enough company to share the pain, like some airlines have decided to rather than getting rid of people.

COVID in some ways is a level playing field. And it presents an opportunity for humanity and shared endeavour.

Hold on tight everybody and hopefully the employees can negotiate with the company to reverse their decision to cut people adrift.

Nothing really to offer other than best wishes and good luck to all that may lose their employment in this virus that is ravaging the world. Aviation is feeling pain but we should remember that people are losing their life's and families are being devastated by its impact. One just has to try and stay positive, of course it's a lot easier saying than doing.

They've taken the government loan. sold the road haulage business and reduced the fleet and cut the wages. Unfortunately, only redundancies remain. Unless there is a serious and rapid recovery in holiday travel, it might still not be enough. Too many unknown unknowns in the world to confidently predict anything.

Damn, sorry to hear that and I guess a lot of the airbus folk were made up to be recovering from TC ? Double blow ! At least they’ll all have useful type ratings when things pick up

The leisure market will come back strongly in the UK. All I hear from people I come across every day is ‘when can I go on holiday?’. They’re holding off booking because of the uncertainty of the holiday going ahead, not out of fear of the virus.

Of course, this means close to zero cash flow in the meantime. That doesn’t work well in the aviation business. The network will be 20% smaller next summer but if advance bookings improve who knows what will happen to the plans. Maybe the guys laid off will be kept engaged with a view to bringing them back in for the summer 2021. Let’s hope so.

People have short memories.. look at the images in the news today of UK beaches. As soon as this two day summer is over and airbridges are announced I think the flights will fill up.. only time will tell.
I hope Balpa can help minimise the damage and at least give people the right to return if things pick up quicker than expected. Now is the time to all share the pain so that a few individuals dont have their lives turned upside down - for the second time in a year for some.

All the best to everyone.

At the moment travelling is a nightmare, 4 hour check in, no refreshments and no on board services. If you're planning holiday, especially a family holiday, you need the basic facilities open at the airports.
Large numbers of PAX came by National Express to LGW and LHR, that service has stopped and the only parking is short-stay.
Hopefully, after 4th July they may start to open up things and encourage people to travel again, but for many it's too tough at this time.
After the pubs open you can expect the straw-donkey, tattooed boozers, but they must be aware that social distancing may interrupt their plans! We really don't care as long as people pay to fly!

I'm with you on this one. Some proof is here:
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/b...lights-4259118
The sector providing short-distance budget leisure travel will recover a lot earlier than the legacy carriers who rely on a premium product geared towards high-end travellers. Moreover, many of those who would have otherwise gone on holiday to Asia, Australia or the Americas will likely prefer to holiday closer to home for the next year, i.e. in Europe. So, hopefully, arrangements will be put into place to allow our colleagues from Jet2 to either switch to part-time temporarily or be re-hired within the next year. It's not impossible and not implausible from an economic perspective if enough good will exists among the decision-makers.

Today we hear that Virgin cannot crew their July flights.

My view is that with each calamity the human race becomes more resilient. This aviation depression will not last half as long as the doomsters reckon it will.

I sincerely hope that no one is doing overtime or giving up leave to help out Virgin after what they are pulling.

Maybe. Or maybe not. But one thing is for sure, when it does recover, given the amount of time and money it takes to get an experienced captain going, most companies will have coming what they asked for