EASY jet strike AMS
 

So,

The klm pilots union managed to push te easy pilots into a strike again in a few hours......

Lets see how it all works out......

Are they suggesting that the previous strike a couple of weeks ago had no success? It's quick to hold another confrontation.

Testpanel,

In the UK the easy pilots are represented by BALPA, in Italy by ANPAC, in Spain by SEPLA, and in France by the SNPL. All of which represent pilots for their national flag carriers as well.

STFU

Well done to these guys! :ok:

The race to the bottom has to stop somewhere and a company giving worse contracts to crew in other bases while at the same time making record profits should be stopped. If only RYR pilots had this much balls! :rolleyes:

And this from a VNV critic!

The other strike was broken by flying in scabs as this is allowed under UK law. The dutch judge allowed this too but also recognised the right to strike and to balance the odds they are now allowed to strike after only 6 hours notice instead of 48 hours :p So the only way for EasyJet to break the strike now is to have full time standby crew in HOTAC in AMS :D

Is that sort of 1970s frothing-at-the-mouth-bolshevik dinosaur hate-language really necessary or appropriate today?

It now sounds even more revolting to my ears than it did back then, especially as now you are calling people who have no choice in the matter vile names like that.

Not good. Not nice. Not clever.

Wageslave,

You might not like the language, but it's what a lot of people will be thinking. In the past this action largely involved management pilots and cabin crew, volunteers who just want a change of scenery or those crawling the greasy pole. Invariably they are not the people who would ever envisage calling on help from a Union should it be required.

Yes it's a four letter word, and not a nice one. But if the contract had been reasonable in the first place, this wouldn't be happening.

Yes....it's even more necessary now. Spineless cowards created this monster. I assume you are management. They do have a choice in the matter. Break the strike and stab your brother in the back or solidarity for better terms and conditions. A senior Delta Captain makes over 300k a year. He also has integrity, morals and abilities that he is appropriately compensated for. Enjoy your turbo diesel Skoda and leave the career to the professionals.

If AMS crews strike then that's wholly at their discretion.

What you morons calling crews 'scabs' need to realise is that under UK law refusing to crew a flight on the grounds that it's to cover industrial action is illegal and will lead to your instant dismissal.

As much as I respect and sympathise with the strikers, my mortgage and the wellbeing of my family, bank balance and career prospects are much more important to me. If I'm assigned an AMS flight that would have been cancelled, then I'm on it wether I like it or not.

The problem in the UK is worsened by the fact that the industry is small here in the UK. What you jolly foreigners don't realise is that airlines in the UK are managed by old RAF squadrons who remain friends and will pass your name round quicker than you could don a pair of clogs. Bang goes your career in the UK. Why the hell should I be banished to the sand pit or dodgy contract work just for the sake of AMS base striking????

Look what happens when you leave a UK airline even on good terms. It's a one way system and in most cases you're black listed. The construction industry here was recently pulled for such actions. The aviation industry still practices it however.

That much for solidarity....

As much as I like Mrs Tatcher I think that the UK rules leave to much desired to protect the works rights to strike. But the nice thing: with Brexit it will be an EU issue rather than a UK issue in the near future and Easyjet with an EU AOC will not be allowed to legally scab strikes :) (ps I dont think that the EJ AOC will be in the Netherlands for some reason ;) )

Another tick in the Brexit box for me then. Yet another massive positive. The new EU AOC will not be in the Netherlands. The Netherlands are probably the most likely of any country to launch a life boat from the sinking titanic which is the EUSSR. They'll probably have to up sticks and move again should Nexit occur.

This. I wish strikers could realise that, as sympathetic as I might be, I'm not quite sympathetic enough to end my own career on your behalf.

Quick as blink the 1970s frothing-at-the-mouth-bolshevik dinosaurs come crashing out of their caves spouting bile,vitriol, ludicrous assumptions and wild non-sequiturs.

I know its irritating that some countries have the moxie to strike while in the UK no matter how badly our Ts and Cs are eroded we won't and BALPA are as wet as a dishcloth but that's the way it is. Solidarity? In EZY UK? Ha!!! What is this? Short memory syndrome too? If you want to go charging off like Don Quixote to fight someone else's war go right ahead, there are plenty of applicants to fill your position when you've destroyed your career in the name of dogma like the miners did. Not smart.

I am as pro-unions as it gets, but demanding that a colleague loses his or her job so that you may get a better pay deal is downright ridiculous. UK EZY pilots have no option but to cover those flights if rostered to do so.

AMS based easy pilots know quite well that their UK colleagues are bound by UK employment law and do not expect for a minute that they go against it. Don't start about scabs because the AMS based easy pilots have no beef at all with UK based easy pilots, only with easy management who say they offer reasonable t&c's but actually don't...

+1.

In some European countries you can hold a strike/refuse to work across borders/work to rule at the drop of a hat with reasonable impunity, safe in the knowledge that when your Union say it's OK you can rock back up to work and suffer negligable consequences.

Do that in some other countries and unless you're union has been very clever you're fired for indulging in illegal industrial action, and there's no protection in law. It's yet another example of how European pilots associations are struggling to cope with hard driving pan-European businesses.

Already today wrong. Local contracts means local employment laws, and many are very similar to the UK ones in that regard. Of course, one could always call in sick, but that is somewhat risky as well, dependent on where you work (pretty much riskless where i live).

Well, it is really struggling with the fact that working/employment law is not unified in europe. Or to say it in another way: companies do have it easy as they can work cross-border, unions can't as the law doesn't allow it.

Yes, it's "Back to the EUSSR" where the system is rigged in such a way that; heads = ordinary workers lose out, and tails = the big corporations win. :mad:

And there's the rub