A little out of date, but while the newbies were being comprehensibly bent over, this was going on.As stelios says"nice work if you can get it"


EasyJet profits trigger £6.4m payout for boss | City A.M.

Oh, this ones better

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/busines...-times-4755928

Hi Gilles,
It appears some like what you write to the point to extensively copy your text, but without stating it ... That is not so Poli.

Trop fort Tanguy !

Pay-to-fly schemes for young pilots must stop


Nice article on ECA website.

Today's dumbed down ATPL is probably worth a dumbed down degree. My ATPL required an average pass mark of 70%. Let's say an "A" grade at "A" level in those days. Plotting, Met Practical & Flt Planning all required 80% to pass. So, around 10 "A" levels (in the old days) at "A" grade standard. Definitely Degree standard. I was offered a place at Oxford to read Law with just TWO "A" levels . Multi choice (?), what's that ???? All hand written responses required & no past papers to cheat with !Where do I apply for my degree ? Getting tired of writing UK ATPL, IR, Perf A after my name !

Rise in pay-to-fly numbers
 

Rise in pay-to-fly pilot numbers raises ECA concerns - 4/30/2015 - Flight Global

And now they are concerned? They should have been concerned long time ago.

My ATPL was accepted as an acceptable qualification for the entry requirements for a Masters Degree course without actually having one.

The ATPL has to done with a practical application of your knowledge to finish your qualification ie your flight test.

A formal degree doesn't, so why the argument over the academic merits of either ?

2 Degrees and ATPL in both Aeroplanes and Helicopters and I didn't particularly find any more onerous or difficult than the other.

Dull argument if you ask me.

Who gives a rats ass if an ATPL is harder/equatable to a BSC/pub quizz? Seriously? Did your balls ever drop? Get past playing who's conker is bigger or harder. Are you the same types who bragged about your school grades but cried when you got decked on a night out in the real world? Catch yourself on. I couldn't careless what anybody thinks of me, what anybody thinks of my professional qualification over their wine and cheese party. Screw those types. Shallow buggers as insecure as anybody.

What I care about is whether an employer values that enough to pay me right and give me a lifestyle that won't hurt my health, allowing me a fair slice of my own (I own it) life whilst I head to retirement. Right now, it doesn't matter what the qualification is worth. The supply is faultless. I could start the most impossible qualification known to man, with 30 years training tomorrow. Other than trying to impress your mates down the pub it's worthless for finding a job if no one values it as being in short supply. Think metals . Think 'tin' and think 'gold'. It's supply and demand. Who gives a **** how hard it is. Some in aviation will be eternally stuck in a middle class world. They need to wake up, get used to being a blue collar worker and realize flying aeroplanes is just another work place, the same as any industry subject to the same principles.

cliff
sadly, the 2 seem to be related. The airlines and authorities have successfully lowered the barriers to entry for the job by dumbing down the qualification, and in some cases inventing new ones. (MCC)
This has enables supply to exceed demand, lowering the rate for the job. It is interesting to see that where demand has exceeded supply in China for experienced Captains, the rate is soaring.