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sentosa1942 18th Oct 2014 08:31

Wizzair Interviews
 
Has anyone recently been on the Wizzair 3 day assessment ?

Smokie 18th Oct 2014 09:44

3 Day Assessment!!!!

It was only 2 x 1 hour interviews when I went, 1 tech/ flying related and 1 with HR........:ugh: But that was a few years ago.

Rusty_dough 23rd Oct 2014 10:31

I have been invited for a 3 day assessment at Wizzair in Nov. I am realy interested in the technical written test (90 questions multiple choice)

Hope they dont go to deep in the raw ATPL therory, its been 5 years since I did the exams and although I have ample time to prepare, one month is going to be a short one.

Does anybody have any pointers on the written exam?

Non type rated 320
1200 ME TP
1500 TT

FLYJET123 4th Nov 2014 11:31

Wizz air
 
Does anyone know the terms and conditions?

Jean-Francois 6th Nov 2014 21:49

Hi there!

Some info about the new recruitment process. Info received from a mate working with Wizz.

Tech q? 100 (10 out of them are open questions and 90 are multiple choice q?)
Math test
Group test
(English test... I am not sure anymore)
HR
Sim check

They are apparently really picky and you need to know well your atpl, jeppessen intro, ifr minima, if rated you should be able to draw and explain any of the system on board (elec, fuel, hyd, press,...)

Good luck

captplaystation 6th Nov 2014 22:03

They are apparently really picky




Well, they should be, they are paying you something approaching €2000 /mth AND you get to fly a lovely Pink Airbus :D isn't that just so. . . . super , no, super dooper I think :ok:


This industry just makes me want to :yuk: & then :yuk: & then :ugh:


If you have a brain , FFS why don't you go & get a "proper" job paying "proper" money & fly a Cessna at the weekends ? too late for me aged 56 , I am stuck with this cr@p, if you are 20 ish & educated , you are not. . . are you blind ? ?

BusAirDriver 7th Nov 2014 00:25

2000 Euros a month!!! Ha ha ha :D If you are non rated, and with training bond for XX amount of years, expect to have around 1200 Euros a month!

:} And guess what, you get treated like you get paid! No further comment :E

Saturno 7th Nov 2014 16:43

For people looking for the first job Wizz and other low cost are still a good choice, brand new planes, europe, nice destination, quite good roaster, nice envirment, and at least you are sure to get the salary, and when you get the experience you leave for better T&C..
And these low cost are the only one hiring people.. Fortunately

Or we wanna talk about all the airlines that are more close to bankrupt than to fly???

JaxofMarlow 7th Nov 2014 17:29

2000 Euro a month. :mad: me. I am speechless. Utterly speechless.

BusAirDriver 7th Nov 2014 23:50

Saturno "Or we wanna talk about all the airlines that are more close to bankrupt than to fly???"


Yes maybe it is better that the authorities made a proper audit of the conditions of this airline, and they stopped flying! Or are you working just to make the airline rich!

Last I heard they reported 1 million profit a day! Why not give people a good bonus! 4 free tickets :D

Saturno 8th Nov 2014 06:11


Last I heard they reported 1 million profit a day! Why not give people a good bonus! 4 free tickets
You are completely right, it's a shame, and I don't agree with this policy and model, just saying the these company are the only option available for the young kids to start a job.

Narrow Runway 8th Nov 2014 06:20

And therein lies the problem.

Why should Wizz Air be considered a first job? Because they know that kids will accept anything in order to fly.

Believe me, I've flown with some of these kids. Some were good, some were very, very bad indeed.

Initial selection is almost based on ability to pay, not ability in it's purest form.

F2 Driver 8th Nov 2014 06:50

Latest News from a recent management and crew meeting. No more British or Dutch will be employed, partly due to the number of resignations. :ugh:

Saturno 8th Nov 2014 07:27

This is a 2 way games, they hire pilots giving them low salary, and pilots come get the hours and experience they need and leave, everybody is happy.

The selection is not based on ability to pay believe me, a lot of things changed, and resignations are from all nationalities, both fo and cpt, only local pilots, based in their own country are not leaving, not yet :)

Saturno 8th Nov 2014 07:32

NR today in europe, a kid with 250 hrs where could apply? Tell me

Narrow Runway 8th Nov 2014 08:24

saturno

It is based on ability to pay. If you can somehow live on €800 a month, then that is ability to pay, when compared against someone who can't.

It is a direct economic relationship.

Most of the €800 a month FO's will be somewhat subsidised. This will likely be by parents, grandparents, partners or whatever. But make no mistake, that is selection by ability to pay.

250 hour pilots always struggled to get their first job. However, in the past they didn't directly destroy the entire industry T & C's.

sascha410 8th Nov 2014 17:31

Narrow Runway,
I do not know where do you have 800Eur figgure from. The one I know is bigger than that, so no lower than 1200EUR for the first year.
And one CAN live on that in eastern EU. It is not much, but one years goes fast and do not forget that on top of that your Type Rating is being deducted. So your sallary is around 2000eur.
Considering todays situation in aviation this is, from my point of view good chance.

Kind regards

JaxofMarlow 8th Nov 2014 18:03

Great. Freedom of labour between member EU states is really not helping. 1200 Euro a month to fly an airliner. In UK this is less than the minimum wage and what you would expect if you filled Tesco shelves for a living. Would not get close to covering my mortgage.

imaximov 8th Nov 2014 18:43

And yet it is the salary everyone in my country (with a wizz base) dreams of. No surprise when the average salary is around 500 eur. Even more 2000 is around what you can expect as an FO in another local airlines.

It is not Wizz. Is it the lack of equality in EU.

JaxofMarlow 8th Nov 2014 19:10

It is neither. It is the bonkers political dream of providing a level playing field across a huge geographical area with a huge divergence in employment opportunity/unemployment levels/cost of living/wages. You surely can see why those in the UK (for instance) are pissed off at seeing their salary and terms and conditions eroded as our employers see a wave of potential resource at their disposal that are happy with salaries that won't cover the cost of keeping a roof over our heads. I talk not only of those from Eastern EU but the spotty kids whose mummy has plonked £100k on the table to get young James a glam job.

Narrow Runway 8th Nov 2014 19:37

Sascha,

Please don't think I don't know the situation.

I've been both a Captain and a Base Captain at Wizz Air.

Believe me, €1200 is NOT enough. How do you expect to repay your training debts to the bank?

Oh, hang on. Silly me. Mummy and Daddy do that for most kids in this salary.

Believe me, I've flown with FO's in Wizz (admittedly 5 years ago now), who could not keep their finances in order, after debt repayment. And they were earning €2500 a month then.

Can you see just how exploitative this all is?

I can.

yurski 8th Nov 2014 19:40

I'm the Bus driver in London driver and I get paid more

TheBigD 8th Nov 2014 19:46

Can I get the email for recruitment?:E

All kidding aside, do you guys in JAA/EASA land see the t and c's improving at all in the foreseeable future or have you yet hit rock bottom in terms of T&Cs?

Saturno 8th Nov 2014 20:23

NR, as I told you before, I agree with you, and since you were in wizz you know the situation, but all the parties are aware of this, and both use eachother.. And yes 1200 eur are not enought even to survive not mentioning to live!!
Bye

RedBullGaveMeWings 8th Nov 2014 20:27


Originally Posted by JaxofMarlow (Post 8733596)
Great. Freedom of labour between member EU states is really not helping. 1200 Euro a month to fly an airliner. In UK this is less than the minimum wage and what you would expect if you filled Tesco shelves for a living. Would not get close to covering my mortgage.

But Poland and Hungary are not the UK...

BusAirDriver 9th Nov 2014 08:58

Cost of living much cheaper?

Besides slightly cheaper rent for living in so racist country, there is not much else that is much cheaper!

It's EU second tier!

Skipping Classes 9th Nov 2014 14:58


...the situation, but all the parties are aware of this, and both use eachother..
And that's the reasons its "get your experience and move on" airline, even for the most experienced local TRI/TRE's and top management pilots (as we know from the experience) - quite sadly.

And this won't change until its sold or IPO.

drfaust 9th Nov 2014 19:15

Spare me the BS.
 
I don't understand what's so complicated. An employment contract is a voluntary agreement between the two parties. If you don't like what your contract says, or find it unacceptable, don't sign it by all means. I also don't know where all you people are based and on what contracts, because as a normal bondless FO here I rake in just about 3.3K euro per month after tax, social contributions and pension deductions on a local Polish contract.

Really guys, by all means, don't come. You might force them to improve the package. However, you and I both know that when push comes to shove and they offer you a job, you will take it. And after a year or two when the men in the LHS have taught you how to fly, you will bail either by respecting your contract or not. This is not a great place to work when it comes to money, roster and holidays. It really isn't, especially not for experienced people. But what is really worrying is the experienced people leaving, a lot of them. Locals and expats, CPT's and SFO's. But they're not spending their time moaning on PPRUNE about something they willingly signed up for when it was advantageous for them. They take action and evacuate because the company is failing to improve their standards of living over a long period of time. That, I understand. What I just don't understand is the hypocrisy on here. They offer you a contract, you accept it and sign it and then you end up whinging about it. Are you retarded?

So for the last time: just don't sign! It might force the company to improve the package for everybody. In the meantime for all the guys that will join (and they will join), a piece of advice: try to listen to your captains and trainers, you might learn something when you are not speaking. And for all the people considering these countries to be racist or second tier EU, feel free to crawl back where you came from because nobody will miss you. Over and out.

BusAirDriver 9th Nov 2014 22:57

Racist, I have seen this personally. (Not within the company, but locally)

Second tier, because they want to be part of EU, but give working conditions that is ancient 19.th century style!

Management style that does not belong in the 21.st century!

Long term future is in my opinion they have to change, as even people from these countries will want and expect more!

Keep the people down with spy-games and inside reporting! Good for morale!

BusAirDriver 9th Nov 2014 23:20

Just to get this pay figures correctly.

Base pay is 20.000 Euro a year before tax = 1666 a month.

Deduct 1000 Euro of this for 15 months, and you have base pay of 666 Euros a month.

Add sector pay, approx. 30 Euros a sector, which can be from 16 - 30 sectors as median averages.

If you are sick, or holiday, your base pay is 666 Euros a month, if you on a local contract. If you on tax evasion Swiss contract, you will be deduct sick days from your base salary. But happy days for your holidays, you will have 6 66 Euros a month for that. Good luck to survive on this!

imaximov 10th Nov 2014 18:16

A high-school teacher in Bulgaria gets about 350 E a month.... And survives!
Good luck to you!

TheColonel 11th Nov 2014 02:23

Becoming an airline pilot is not about surviving... just saying :ugh:

TBSC 11th Nov 2014 03:27

@BusAirDriver

A doctor gets 600 EUR net in Hungary. And not survives but lives. Bear in mind that being a doctor is a real profession with 6 years of university study +3-5 years of practice until you get promoted to any kind of specialist and not a crash course about push-buttons and basic physics. Before you start with the "saving lifes in case of emergency" lecture, a doctor has all the same chances to kill people each day.

If your home country offers you great jobs with high wage as a pilot, please take it. Problem solved. If Wizz gives you a chance to be a pilot (as you don't get a job at home) and collect hours, please take it but do not moan. Maybe it's not too late to study either and be a doctor for a big stack of dosh. Your choice.

Saturno 11th Nov 2014 05:52

@ TBSC

you are right, the problem is that in Wizzair, there are a lot of expats, and with Wizzair salary it's not easy to manage a family in your home country with maybe a house to pay and all the rest, and at the same time live and commute int the country where you work, with no sick leave in case something happened and no retirement contributions, and in the meantime try to save some money for the future.

This is the big picture, but as I said earlier, when you join you know the deal, take to leave it. If wizzair would have a better salary the rate of leaving was completely different, because apart that, it is a great place to stay.

bye

drfaust 11th Nov 2014 10:43

If I may add something here, I totally disagree with people like BusAir etc. Who are known for their stirring around the company. Joining as a cadet in this company with zero experience means you will financially suffer for the first 18 months or so. It is a choice you make for yourself and accepting it means you do not get the right to moan anymore or anyones sympathy. And if Eastern Europe is so racist or second-tier then my god, please, pack yourself up and show yourself the door. I know plenty of guys that would love to take your place. I would like to add that I am not Polish, but have never been treated in a fashion that could be called unhospitable let alone discriminated against.

I disagree however with WZZ management that they exclusively pay salaries that are somehow a reflection of the national average salary in the country you are based in. This is an international market, and the FR guys parked right next to us doing a very similar route out of the same base do seem to be getting somewhat of a fair wage for what they do. For me that's the reason why so many people leave, deliberately ignoring holiday and roster issues.

BusAirDriver 11th Nov 2014 12:23

Ref the racism was not by people within the company, more from the locals!

I guess you will only notice this if your skin colour is a bit dark!
Besides the Hungarian CRM team who likes to make jokes of the funny Indian accents!

Jwscud 11th Nov 2014 14:00

It's coming to something when FR are the good wage benchmark.

BusAirDriver 11th Nov 2014 17:51

Yes the irony is that at RyR you make more than double as an FO, and as a Captain I would think treble!

I say one thing only, unfair competition, because Wizz and likes bend every rule they can, be careful what you wish for if the other companies need to do the same to keep up and survive with cheaters like Wizz!

This is the major point people fail to understand!

If we do accept the way Wizz operates, and others similar, it will only be a matter of time before EVERYONE will do the same, and it will be joyous business.

FRogge 11th Nov 2014 18:43

If a FR captain makes about 9k/month. that can't be 3x more than a Wizz Cpt, no matter what the living costs are in Poland. Just out of interest, how much tax do you pay in Poland/Hungary?? In Ireland we pay almost 40% of the FO salary and I think captains pay even more (if not on a dodgy old contract) + social insurance

BusAirDriver 11th Nov 2014 19:02

FR Captain on 9K a month, Wizz Captain on around £3500 a month!

Wizz pilots are not really paying any taxes, Wizz has created a Swiss tax haven!

Btw. who knows, employed or not, everybody gets a Swiss tax certificate!

Be careful for what you wish for! Some companies are cowboys who bend the rules more than others!


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