BA City Flyer opens recruitment
 

BA city have just opened FO recruitment for the Embraer.
Closing date is August 29th.

Careers with BA CityFlyer

We are sorry to say that you don't meet the necessary criteria to join us at this time. The reasons for this decision are as follows:


Is there any reason why you would not be suitable for employment if a security check was carried out on you You answered No.

That's me out then, yes i am suitable is why i answered no, there is no reason why i would not be suitable.

Maybe that was the verbal reasoning test. Only THEY got it wrong.

Is LCY the only pilot base? I thought EDI was a base for a few years.

Job spec says Edinburgh also...

ITFC1
I'd email HR to say that you've had a problem with that application.
And take it from there. They are usually very helpful.

EDIT: HR are aware and have corrected the response.

great to see BACF are recruiting. Does anyone know if they are likely to take low hour pilots over the next few months?

The issue with the question wording has been reported and has been fixed I believe.

Despite some rumours, the EDI base is still very much up and running.

BACF have taken on low hours cadets in recent months, and MPL students but, for the next round of recruitment, are only looking for experienced applicants. I think they will take on more low hours people in the future as it saves them a fortune!

When I see "competitive" written in the salary section, I become immediately suspicious. Any ideas how much we're talking here?

BA Cityflyer pilot jobs, payscales and entry requirements.

Recently updated and looks pretty accurate

Go in with your eyes very much open...

Moral at an all time low... mass exodus underway (at last)

Re-Applying
 

I applied last Autumn and received an email last month telling me I had been unsuccessful but I could reapply when they next recruited. However, when I logged on, my old application is there, and when I tried to withdraw it to start again the system said it had already been withdrawn and no further action can be taken, but when I clicked the link to apply again the system said 'Application Submitted!' Any suggestions? Or is it because it is less than 12 months since the previous application? (I've just looked at the date on the cover letter and it is 1 year today I wrote it, 22nd August!)

It may sound pedantic, but moral and morale are two very different things:hmm::hmm:

Does anyone know what their sim assessment is like?

Jump Complete

Same here. And no!

In actual fact WK you're right.... but they both don't exist at CF.

The company have no morals with regard to several key issues facing the working conditions at the minute..

...and the staff have no morale..

You'd pass the assessment with your keen observational skills and pedantic nature..! :ok::ok:

When you say that people are leaving, what's the attrition rate at the moment- any idea how many folk are required in the next 3-4 months?

A friend of mine is in the hold pool from last year's selection process.

Does anyone have any more information about working for cityflyer? How does the roster work? Time to command? Route network? Stopovers and trips?

Many thanks

Have any invitations gone out for interviews/assessments yet?

Did they correct the problem in the application process for those that applied and had to select no to the airport security question, to be able to get through the incorrect logic in the online application process

They also ask: "What is your base preference Edinburgh Airport or London City Airport?" Answer choices are Yes / No.
Erm, am I missing something here? ...prefer Edinburgh or London? Yes. ????
:ugh:

Any idea on time to command ?

Depends on background and experience, and also if there will be any future expansion. Next jet due any time but no orders after that confirmed at the moment.

Ok thanks. Let's say for a guy with 3500 hrs with 2000+ jet. Rough guess ? Less than 4 years ?

You can't put a time on it I'm afraid as the range of people who have command is massive, while the same can be said of those who haven't been given a shot!!

Anybody receive any feedback? Any scheduled interviews?

Props Forward

Don't encourage White Knight praising his observational skills as he is just dying to tell that he once worked for City Flyer and is now a Big A380 Captain, having started as a Bush Pilot.:}

PS Some say he still thinks he is a Bush Pilot:ooh:

Props has some good points.. one or two issues in particular need addressing. People are therefore voting with their feet which will literally trip CFE up in the short term. Canceling flights due lack of crew will not go down well by big BA!

(I detect an element of sarcasm though with Prop's response to WK?)

Anyone have any idea whether they will relax the weight limitation on experience?

They'll accept a zero experience cadet to fly the E-jet, Airbus or a Boeing yet increasingly, experience on a glass cockpit medium size jet doesn't appeal.

Nearly a week since the closing date; has anyone heard anything? Any invitations going out yet?

Coming upto two weeks since closing date, has anyone been called/emailed/PFO'd?

Wodka I applied on their last recruitment, I never heard anything back from them. 8000 Hrs on jets. So i wouldn't hold your breath

I have been checking everyday this post to know if there are any updates... Very strange as they never emailed anyone with further information about our applications. Is anyone from inside BA City Flyer has any information? Will appreciate if you share some information with us regarding this last FO recruitment. Thanks! Good day to everyone.

I have reliable information that they are currently sifting applications and that replies to all will go out shortly, most probably next week.

I was rather under the impression that BACF had more of a relationship with Jerez than OAA. Regardless, I hope us experienced bods will also get a look in. I would dearly love to join CityFlyer.

EMB145-SLR "dearly love to join Cityflyer" hmm a phrase you dont usually hear attached to the name Cityflyer!! but i guess love is subjective. I presume from your name you are on Embraers? and i guess you look at the 170/190 at Cityflyer and think biggger aircraft and what seems like a better BA run company? Well please dont be fooled by that picture! If the company are recruiting they will want low hour cadets because they are cheap to hire, willing to be hired, and will be grateful for getting a foot on the ladder. the company has plenty of candidates for command positions already in the company, so could be awhile to get into the left seat. As for experienced guys slim to no chance of being hired, you see you have experience and thats the problem you face. You have been around awhile seen other airlines practices, have a reasonable idea of what you are doing and what you will do,Cityflyer management dont want this, because in a nutshell you will probably know more than they do about flying and aviation in general, and that means you will question their methods and practices and the Didsbury ring cannot have this happening. " The leadership Team" yes they really call themselves that, have all the answers, the company is run for their benefit and theirs alone, nobody else can have an opinion or a better way of doing things and if you voice an opinion or come up with a better way of doing things then yea they will smile and pat you on the back, but thats your card marked as a possible troublemaker and you will be "managed out of the company" a phrase used by managers several times over the last few years and put into practice several times. So be careful what you wish for on the surface it looks like a nice shiny BA company with all the benefits that may have, underneath the skin however, it is a regional airline being run by management who have no experience beyond running regional airlines, and cannot see beyond regional airline practices and methods.

Thanks for the insight marlowe. I'm sorry to hear that things aren't too rosy over at BACF. I can sympathise, I'm actually flying E170/190s now in the USA (I came off the 145 a while back). While I don't doubt what you say, it honestly can't be as bad as working for a regional over here. I make roughly a third of the money that an FO at CityFlyer makes. In fact, even when I upgrade to captain next year, I'll be making slightly less than a CityFlyer FO.

I've been away from the UK for five years now. I miss my family and my friends. I miss the food ironically! My wife is desperate to move to the UK too. I know that no airline is perfect, but one that pays on time and is based in your home country is one hell of a start. Unfortunately I can't get a call from any of them because 3,000TT is too much experience now. I know the grass isn't always greener, but after three airlines and a lot of heartache, I'll be happy just to have a muddy patch in the UK, forget the grass!

Anyway, BACF haven't called yet, and I'm becoming increasingly convinced that they won't at all.

EMB i fully understand about wanting to get home, Cityflyer are a strange outfit on the outside people see BA and think that is what they are flying, but behind the colour scheme its a whole different story. I guess it all boils down to what matters to you and how much **** your willing to shovel to get where you want to be! I am sure that other people will be along shortly to tell you that Cityflyer isnt that bad. but i bet none of them work for them. any current or past employees will recognise the company as written

What aspects in particular are so bad if you don't mind me asking? Lots of scheduling issues and reassignments? I honestly think anything is a vast improvement on life at regional here in the USA.

When I applied I had to select No to one of the screening questions that asked about security passes, to be able to progress the application.