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recall_checked 18th Apr 2018 12:19

Really they're just looking for a capable, honest and personable pilot. Somebody easy to sit next to on a 13 hour duty. Plenty of info in this thread.

Historically, people have been assigned the fleet they are already type rated on, but it isn't a rule by any means. It all depends where the shortfall is I guess. But with the 787 and 757 going down to less than a years seniority, you could probably bid off the 737 quickly enough assuming nothing changes. Again, it all depends on what seats they fill up in this recruitment round and where there is space. I'm not somebody who is in the know, these are just my observations.

The 85k is without deduction. The pay scales on PPJN are accurate, there is a decent pay rise at the year 5 FO mark so I reckon 100k+ is possible from year 5.

In terms of take home pay, without working any days off, 4.5-5k is my average. With day off payments your net pay can go through the roof. But I wouldn't count on flexi being available every month. There is a small combination of how duty pay is taxed but I wouldn't worry about it. When I was paying back the 7k OCC costs I usually netted 4.1-4.3k unless flexi was involved.

Ich Bin Solo 20th Apr 2018 08:24

Great response, cheers.

SeaBreeze1 22nd Apr 2018 08:21

I recently joined the company at the beginning of the year from FR and if there's anybody out there thinking about making the jump then I can highly recommend it! From the off, the company are trying to cut costs (who isn't?) and it remains to be seen what path they try to take. My decision was largely a lifestyle choice - I was offered command shortly before I handed my notice in but there's no way i'm moving to Romania on crap pay without any idea of when I could get home.

The flying here is great - there's nothing like flying to ALC and back and being back home by midday. I could fly with the best crew on the planet at FR but the flying was soul destroying - 4 and 6 sector days, max duty with min rest in between.

The training has been excellent. It's a VERY short OCC - 4 days GS, 4 days sim, 3 days LT - and the procs are very different to FR. We only have about a third of the callouts that FR do so the hard bit's forgetting the stuff from before!

Basing is very transparent and based on seniority. I was based far away from home initially but already have a base move confirmed 2 months after joining. You can input your bid from day one and the bid is run a couple times a year or as required.

There's the opportunity to fly in Canada and to fly different fleets and we've now got the opportunity to bid for mix fleet 737 & 787 flying (remember you'll be type frozen for the first 12 months but this can be waived for operational requirements).

Even with the 7k type deduction in year 1, I've already taken a pay rise compared to my pay as a TRI with FR. The training cost isn't great, it is what it is and I now see it as a 7k pay rise in year 2. The perks are excellent in comparison (I was a contractor with FR) and I can finally sleep well at night knowing i'm not on a :mad: tax-dodging contract, i'll get paid if I call in sick, hotels and transported are booked and paid for if I get sent away and I have a pension!

Just my opinion and experience so far, just though it may help if others are thinking of making the move. Good luck with the assessments!

Black Pudding 22nd Apr 2018 10:43

I was made redundant from Thomson back in 2010 along with others. Had that never happened, I would have still been there now and never planned to leave. Great company, or it was back then. Great crew and training top notch. I can not recommend Thomson TUI anymore than it's an ideal place to aim for. Time to command is a long long time. There is a reason for that, very few leave.

recall_checked 22nd Apr 2018 16:56

To be fair command is expected to come down to the 2014/2015 joiners for the S19 bid. Bit of expansion going on now.

Worth remembering there was a big gap in recruitment for 5 odd years, so now all the guys with 10 years seniority are getting their commands the only people left for commands now sit at the 5-4 year mark.

Jack the rabbit 27th Apr 2018 12:27

Has the recruitment window shut? No sign on the tui recruitment search.

plikee 27th Apr 2018 16:34


Originally Posted by Jack the rabbit (Post 10131738)
Has the recruitment window shut? No sign on the tui recruitment search.

Closed 6th April.

G1991 3rd May 2018 07:57

Looks like TUI could be opening up for low hour pilots in the next few days. Personally, I think it will be the best opportunity available to non-ZFT pilots in the U.K. (Should they offer the contract currently on offer...)

Ich Bin Solo 4th May 2018 18:49

It's not a decision maker, but can anyone give an idea on the staff travel process at TUI? e.g. What's it like on own-brand flights?, are they any agreements with other operators e.g. ZED tickets?

Cheers

recall_checked 5th May 2018 09:39

Standby tickets are available with ourselves and all major airlines. Unfortunately, it's done by emailing a scanned copy of a form to our staff travel department who then issue you with a ticket (it used to be a paper ticket in the post up until a couple of months ago!). ID90/other electronic means of booking standby tickets is apparently coming. But it's been "coming soon" for 10+ years. I think it's now actively being looked into. After 1 year service we are given online access to BA staff travel (it's available from date of joining but via the form described above until you get online login). This can only be used to book standby tickets.

Confirmed seats AKA "late seats" are also available but are only confirmed 3 days in advance. Generally, you'd give staff travel a few destinations in order of preference and they work down the list. Nice for spontaneous last minute trips or taking the other half on a week trip to Costa Rica. Standby and late seats are very cheap.

Being a 'holiday airline' we are issued with concessions every year to be used towards a package holiday. The amount depends on years of service. I think year 1 is £500 or £750 and is capped at something like £1750 a year. Don't quote me on the numbers. These are confirmed seats/airport transfer/hotel rooms etc, can be booked well in advance and are great for taking the family away.

Boeing 7E7 5th May 2018 10:23

Interline on BA is ID 80. Roughly speaking, when all taxes and charges are added to the final price, it works out at about a 50% discount on an equivalent firm ticket with the airline.

£1750 is the max amount of concession available and had not changed in 20(?) years. The cost of holidays in the meantime has roughly doubled. Sadly you are not able to use the maximum amount of concessions on an increasing amount of hotels in the group (platinum, small and friendly etc) so, like with a number of other things, it is a diminishing benefit.

donogca 7th May 2018 18:21

Evening, are there many of you still waiting for an assessment date after being offered the temporary hold pool? Cheers

22052014 8th May 2018 01:30


Originally Posted by donogca (Post 10140548)
Evening, are there many of you still waiting for an assessment date after being offered the temporary hold pool? Cheers


hey buddy,

holding pool as well since 9th April.

anybody else been called out of the pool ?
anyone knows how long is the waiting ?

McBruce 8th May 2018 09:04

Most likely movement will happen once our internal bid results are published, this will show where the recruitment is needed. I suspect this will concluded by the end of May.

donogca 8th May 2018 17:50

Cheers, fingers crossed!

recall_checked 8th May 2018 18:34

Applications open for military pilots, low hour CPL holders and 'no airline experience' pilots. All non type rated. Closes this Sunday.

https://tuijobsuk.co.uk/view-jobs.php?area%5B%5D=Pilots&location_alt%5B%5D=&keywords=&sea rch_source=13027&search_page=search%2Fairline-jobs%2F&results=Search

22052014 8th May 2018 19:09


Originally Posted by recall_checked (Post 10141502)
Applications open for military pilots, low hour CPL holders and 'no airline experience' pilots. All non type rated. Closes this Sunday.

https://tuijobsuk.co.uk/view-jobs.ph...results=Search

how this will affect people in the pool ? :confused:
does it means there will be possibility first for
the ones swimming in the holding pool and
afterwards low hours ?

anyways Best of luck to everybody applying ! :)

recall_checked 8th May 2018 20:33

Answer is: No idea. But official comms say approximately 100 pilots needed so plenty of space for the best people. I assume they'll probably want a mix of all the backgrounds, but who knows? (not me).

Jack the rabbit 9th May 2018 11:41

With the permanent uk basing and temporary Nordic is there a chance you could be stuck on this for a few years? one season would be hard on my partner but not insurmountable. More than a season it would be a no go. Am I right in thinking it’s pot luck surprise if that’s what you’re offered?

I understood Tui to have a long time to command of 10 plus years but there’s mention of year 5 FOs being in line. I take it that’ll be temporary with expansion and expect the command time to return to the 10 plus year point?

Jack the rabbit 9th May 2018 22:58


Originally Posted by clamchowder (Post 10142391)
Jack the Rabbit - RE 757/767 fleet the nordic stuff is just positioning out there to fly on long haul trips. You won't have 5 on 2 off for 6 months. 7 days away 5 days in England is a good example. Apparently if you use just over half of your leave during NOV-APR and use the chosen day off system you might only do 1 or 2 trips a month. I don't know anyone on the 787 nordic, but I don't imagine anyone will get 78 unless rated. My buddy says they are super short on 73, that's where I'd set your expectations (don't know if they have a nordic thing for 737). Good luck

Thanks Clam chowder for the info. I got the impression from the vacancy that you’ll be based in the Nordics for the period with local accommodation rather than being offered to position out for trips? It’s the having to be based out there that’s causing doubt. My main concern was whether you’d be stuck on this for a few winters.

Is the shorter time to command people mention a blip and most likely to plan on 10 plus years?


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