easyJet LIS/OPO/AMS
 

HI guys,
as I've been contacted by a number of guys regarding the new easyJet bases in Portugal and Holland I would like to give you some facts that might help your decision making:

LIS/OPO (5 A/C - 2 A/C)
You will operate on a full FRV (Flexible roster) with 132 D/O per year.
In facts this translates on mostly 5 Days on, 2 Days Off (sometimes 3). There is no minimum D/O per month. That means, potentially you could work a lot in summer and less in winter. Nowadays easyJet tends to crew bases with the minimum number of pilots. In my experience, I've been working very hard all year around with no chance to commute.

Your sickness will be payed at 30% your basic salary.

You will be locked in base from 3 to 5 years depending on who you are (CPT; F/O Direct Entry or not etc...)

All the figures that easyJet gives you (are all potential numbers- will be taxed at 50% or more -my max has been 54%- between tax and social security)

CPT expect 6K
SFO expect 3.5K
All average.

The reason behind the fact that now they are accepting non TR pilots is because they are seriously struggling to crew the portuguese bases with easyJet pilots (nobody wants to go) and external A320 rated pilots (of those few that apply, a very little number passes the assessment).

Regarding AMS:
Conditions are similar to the money and roster we have in Portugal but I don't have official figures because the base has just been announced.
easyJet expects EZY dutch pilots will be attracted by the opportunity to go back home after years of commuting.
CPT (I've heard) total monthly salary, after taxes, about 6/6.5K.
But is just guesswork...

My take is: at the moment RYR offers better conditions: on same salary figures they offer a 5/4 roster to everyone.

The slide continues!

Surely ez would need to offer a competitive package to at least Corendon. EZ is a big player in the market place and needs to stand up to that status. Schiphol has only a few players and ez should not been seen as the poor relation. They are orange after all. It's taken them long enough to get there: don't be penny wise & pound foolish.
Are they still the 2nd largest user, by flights, after KLM? If so then even more the reason to stand tall.

Any idea how much the type rating costs and wether there is any chance to get a bond?

I applied under the 1500TT and 500hr multi crew bracket but I actually have a zero hours A320 TR in my back pocket and wondering if they could use it to quicken the process if I got through?

If the numbers above are correct I 'd like the flexi contract pls...

Anybody knows If offered a ams base how long one must stay there?

I would be very surprised if easy cannot fill the base with internal Dutch applicants. There is over 300 Dutch in the company I believe and only 3 A/C to staff.....

A little update with regards to the AMS T&C:

The base freeze for capt:
5 years for DEC
2 years for easyjet internal transfer
3 years for command upgrade

Base freeze for SO/FO/SFO:
3 years
2 years for easyjet internal transfer

The captain salary figure mentioned earlier 6/6.5k is a little optimistic.
Basic pay isn't really basic as the 8% holiday pay we get according Dutch law will be included in there, and so is the 5% pension contribution. Holiday pay and bonuses will be taxed at the highest rate you're paying on your normal salary so for us that will be 52%.

Average takehome will be:
Capt: E5500
SFO: E3500
FO: E3000
SO: E2500

Also remember it will be on a FRV132 roster so only 11 D/O a month. And it's basically a copy of the Portuguese contract although cost of living in NL is much higher. Besides the high taxes (which they also have in Portugal) all additional benefits will be taxed at 52%, schooling has to be paid for, we have expensive health insurance, road taxes are high, VAT just went up and cost in living in the western part of our little country is fairly high as well!

To give you an indication the captain salaries (after tax) for the rest of the airlines in The Netherlands:
EZY: Estimated at E5500
Corendon: E7000
Arkefly: E6500
Transavia: E7500
KLM: I don't even go there :P

Just my 2 cents...

Thanks EPST.

As I said I was just guessing...
easyJet is a slowly sinking ship regarding T&C...unfortunately...:mad:

Remember "we're not Ryanair". Yet.

Yep and what about Airberlin, wizzair and vueling? :E

Please guys do not cry for your crappy conditions, you have let the CTC virus destroy the pilot jobs and conditions in easyJet, zero hour low paid cadets, flexicrew contracts, parc aviation contractors. It is now to late!!!

Remember, "if you are late, we wont wait". :E

Air Berlin? I take home like 6500. As FO.

For 900hrs a year and after german income tax? So you'll have to explain me why your A320 captains make 4500€/month after all german taxes and income tax!!!:D

If you are 15 years with Air Berlin and still have the old LTU contract, but then you would be CPT in any other company making a lot more. :}

A LIS base is something that would interest me, but seems to have disappeared on the EasyJet website. Only AMS, OPO and NAP are listed.

I'm non-TR (all my 4800 hours are on boeings), but it still specifies Type-rated only. Do you think this may change?

Thanks.

Rat 5, your first mistake is you are viewing T & C's from the recipients viewpoint :=

Easy beancounters will wear being 'bottom of the T & C's league table' as a badge of honour, but they would call it the top of the table as in best cost savings.

Easy boys n gals have brought all this on themselves anyway, Balpa :yuk:

@windcheck and EAM, your figures are very out of date for air berlin. The figure quoted from wind check would be true for a junior mainline captain flying 50% part time, a junior to middle sector Dash 8 captain or a senior Austrian captain. Or a medium term FO at the main line or an entry level FO in Switzerland.

However according both to our union and our company we shouldn't discuss exact figures in public.

Hmmm, so EZY pilots and BALPA have brought about the contracts in OPO, AMS & NAP have they? A British based pilot union cannot have much of a say what so ever about the contracts offered in other countries, thats the issue with a European wide airline. The NAP contract is being dealt with by the Italian union (or attempting to) but AMS for example is a new contract applicable in Holland.

The only thing BALPA can honestly do is tell its British members not to sign up for a transfer, and EZY pilots can only follow this advice. The rest is actually down to the local unions in Holland and those DEP's who end up applying for the positions not filled internally.

It's quite easy to point fingers isn't it 'Leg', but at least back up your accusations.

Just a little update with regards to the NAP contract:

Our union (ANPAC) tried to negotiate T&C for the NAP base. This would mean same T&C, same pay but a different roster since 5454 isn't sustainable with only 3 a/c. However, ezy refused to negotiate anything or give anything in return.

After months our union simply said "well in that case we stop negotiating coz this doesn't bring us anywhere". EZY on their turn then said: "Okay so this is the contract. It's not according Italian CLA but we go ahead with what's on the table".

Very unfortunate....My guess is that ezy hopes a lot of the flexi guys will take it, or Alitalia pilots who are about to be sacked.....

Our union is okay with a random roster, but if you work people 26 days more a year (difference between frv132 and 5454) then there should at least be a financial compensation for the extra days worked. Union has a meeting about this matter 5th of august, and I know a lot of MXP/FCO guys are ready to strike on this one! If we let them get away with these T&C in NAP they will do the same thing in any other base in the future.

Mopas, it all had to start somewhere! I was actually responding to wind checks comment re CTC, that's where the rot set in and gave the beancounters cart blanche, comprehendi? :=

PFO email just received from EZY for OPO base. Even quicker than expected.

About 2000 total, 1500 of which medium business jet, non type rated.

Good luck to all of those still in the game.

Same for me! PFO, Non type-rated, with 8700 hours of which 1700 hours are PIC on medium bizjets.

Best of luck for those still in the race.

+1 same for me.
5000H TT
Non type rated

Maybe they don't need NTR pilots...

Did you receive the PFO mail from this address [email protected] ?

Seems strange isn't !?

Yes, same address, but the email looks authentic.

Will check the application page just to be sure, but not holding my breath.

The mail is authentic. I have received the same (same email address) in the last recruitment process in 2013...

The NAP contract is being dealt with by the Italian union (or attempting to) but AMS for example is a new contract applicable in Holland.

The only thing BALPA can honestly do is tell its British members not to sign up for a transfer, and EZY pilots can only follow this advice. The rest is actually down to the local unions in Holland and those DEP's who end up applying for the positions not filled internally.

This might be a 'horse & cart' or 'chicken & egg' situation. I have difficulty deciding which to use. To join the Dutch VNV you might need to be operating for a Dutch company and then join the union. So to operate for ez AMS you need to accept the contract then you can join the union to complain about it. Or are you saying that the VNV could argue against the contract BEFORE it has any members employed on said contract: or can prospective pilots join VNV before being employed?

This HR team is very strange. I applied for 2 different positions. For 1 i got a pfo letter. For the other they invited me to do online test.:bored:

strange
 

Pfo for one, online assessment for another as well

are u guys type rated or not?

No not rated. 3200tt 2800h on bizz jet.

me neither.
went through online test last year, successful after interview in Luton but negative after sim ride....

3500 Turbo Prop, 2000 PIC

Ok.

Same here.
But I'm not sure this is the same HR team. The first position is OPO which is EJ UK, the second one is GVA which is EJ Swiss.

What is the online test like ? General Knowledge & type specific and ATPL questions ?

What was the sim used ? A320 ?

PFO for me for the NTR OPO FO position yesterday.

Invitation to online tests email received today for general NTR FO position I guess.

Did those tests in April 2013. Wasn't good enough for them then and won't be this time either I'm sure but I'll do them again none the less!

1500TT, 1250 P2 on turbo props <10,000kg, NTR.

I am sorry to go off a little bit and by asking a stupid question.

On the add for EJ swiss,they state in the requirements;

First Officers with the following minimum requirements can apply :

Now, am I the only one who's confused here? ab-initio with 500 flight hours multi-crew and 1500 total is not necessarily a ab-initio is it?is it me or they finally open up to many CPL holders out there not in tagged schemes?I would appreciate your views and comments on this matter :ok:

Having worked in Switzerland, I can say that if you are a family man, the Swiss taxman is very forgiving...
For instance you pay less tax the more children you support, just a thought should so apply

Just completed the online tests but there is nowhere to select 'Finished' or 'Completed'. Do I just accept that all 7 tests with a green tick beside them means easy-jet will receive the results?


Disregard above just got email confirmation that I completed the tests successfully, anyone looking for insight come on it is a competitive process so don't expect any hints but it is essentially the same as the Are Lingus tests last year. Expect to take around an hour to complete.

Also can anyone please shed any light on the TR costs, where it is carried out, pay during the training (if any?!) etc. and when they would expect you to come up with the cash? :{

Just curious to see if anyone has completed the online tests. what type of questions?, time limits?

With regard to easyJet Swiss, does anybody know if different entry levels (SO/FO/SFO) are likely to be available in this recruitment, dependent on experience, or will everybody come in as Second Officer?

Also, how is time to command looking at the moment and into the foreseeable? Much expansion likely?

Cheers.

the test are already described in the thread back in 2013. I believe they are the same. 2 questionnaires, and the rest is time limited. With preparation included about 2 hours. 1 week to complete all. Probably again 1 chance at 100 to make it but better than no chance at all