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Ryanair accused of 'exploiting' staff
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It has not been a good news week for Ryanair that's for sure.
Still must say that I know a couple of Ryanair pilots who are happy with their lot so, as in many cases, it is horses for courses in these matters. |
Well, they ARE exploiting their staff. we all know this, yet some do not dare to tell here it seems.
Ryanair is guilty of False self employment. There is no doubt about this, and the various current investigations against FR prove that the countries where FR is operating are finally waking-up. They also exploit passengers by its very confusing website design. I am a passenger, so I am entitled to give this opinion by the way... Exploiting is how they make their profit. it is their business plan and core of their operation. |
What???
Can't be .... that this thread has not been deleted yet. Let's see how long its going to last :suspect: |
Despegue.
Are you,or have been a Ryanair passenger?.:sad:
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Well, they ARE exploiting their staff. we all know this, yet some do not dare to tell here it seems. Ryanair is guilty of False self employment. There is no doubt about this, and the various current investigations against FR prove that the countries where FR is operating are finally waking-up. You indicating a Guilty verdict but have provided no evidence, heard no evidence. They also exploit passengers by its very confusing website design. I am a passenger, so I am entitled to give this opinion by the way... Appears only qualification you stating is as a passnger though and you are not giving opinion when stating "they ARE exploiting their staff." Ryanair is guilty of False self employment. There is no doubt about this I believe you are indicating FACT rather than opinion. Exploiting is how they make their profit. it is their business plan and core of their operation. |
despegue
Providing what the passengers want is how they make their profit. It is their business plan and core of their operation.
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and this from the Independent
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Unfortunately,
I do have to spend time onboard Ryanair from time to time. Never seen Safety issues though:hmm: Racedo, The facts are in plain view. if a so called contractor gets his/hers work schedule from a company, wears an ID and/or Uniform from a company, is only allowed to work for that one company, then according to EU and thus also National legislation, you are employed by said company, nomatter what your contract, which in that case is illegal ( again always the responsability of the employer),tells you. Brookfield and all are just smokehoods in this case. And yes, I have spend a considerable amount of money on legal advice to obtain this info, which is absolutely correct. Like it or not, these are the facts. Booking through the Ryanair website is a snakepit of boobytraps for the inexperienced traveller or user. By specifically having to navigate through insurance offerings, and specifically having to indicate you do not want this service, they knowingly increase the chances of users inadvertantly choosing insurance. same goes with the hotel, luggage, carhire and transportation offers, of which FR all gets a commission. Asking passengers to pay an extra fee for the obligatory web check-in, which is done at your home with your computer, paper and printer, is exploiting. no other way of putting it. In a way, I do admire their antics, as it is very succesfull...I do hate their antics as a passenger, who, mind you still pays less than with the competition. I am also sure that a lot of crew for Ryanair are happy with their current situation. Good for them, but the fact remains that Contracting pilots for airlines do not exist according to EU legislation, of which Ireland is a member state. Now Racedo, if you are flightcrew, you would better support our profession by actively fighting against the downward spiral our profession is going. |
I do have to spend time onboard Ryanair from time to time I made a decision some years ago to never fly Ryanair - and I won't. Some people criticise it, with good reason, but continue to fly on it because it's 'cheap'. Cheap comes at a price and if that compromises safety, and I firmly believe it does, I won't fly them. It is also against my principles to use a company with such rotten ethics. |
As I said before, I have always been happy with what I saw regarding safety.
I have not felt unsafe and not seen anything fishy althoug I have extensive experience on B737. From friends flying there, it seems that training is also professional. One thing Ryanair realizes is that good training and good maintenance reduces cost in the long term. as I said before, they ARE smart. |
Unfortunately, I do have to spend time onboard Ryanair from time to time. Never seen Safety issues thoughhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/yeees.gif Racedo, The facts are in plain view. if a so called contractor gets his/hers work schedule from a company, wears an ID and/or Uniform from a company, is only allowed to work for that one company, then according to EU and thus also National legislation, you are employed by said company, nomatter what your contract, which in that case is illegal ( again always the responsability of the employer),tells you. Brookfield and all are just smokehoods in this case. And yes, I have spend a considerable amount of money on legal advice to obtain this info, which is absolutely correct. Like it or not, these are the facts. Booking through the Ryanair website is a snakepit of boobytraps for the inexperienced traveller or user. By specifically having to navigate through insurance offerings, and specifically having to indicate you do not want this service, they knowingly increase the chances of users inadvertantly choosing insurance. same goes with the hotel, luggage, carhire and transportation offers, of which FR all gets a commission. Asking passengers to pay an extra fee for the obligatory web check-in, which is done at your home with your computer, paper and printer, is exploiting. no other way of putting it. In a way, I do admire their antics, as it is very succesfull...I do hate their antics as a passenger, who, mind you still pays less than with the competition. I am also sure that a lot of crew for Ryanair are happy with their current situation. Good for them, but the fact remains that Contracting pilots for airlines do not exist according to EU legislation, of which Ireland is a member state. Now Racedo, if you are flightcrew, you would better support our profession by actively fighting against the downward spiral our profession is going. Nice try but claiming like Rafa Benitez that something is a fact, doesn't make it so. |
I do not see you as being head of any representative group given permission to speak on others behalf. |
I am not employed and have never been employed by Ryanair in any capacity, neither have I ever worked as a professional flight crew for Ryanair or as a cabin crew or any other airline. I have never flown with Ryanair as a passenger but on a number of occasions I have seen their aroplanes, flying, taxiing, towed or parked and that is the extent of my relationship with the Company.
In various posts on the PPRuNe website, I have seen and followed a number of links leading to media claims about Ryanair and the safety of its flights and operations which I now accept were made by professional journalists. I recognise and accept that I had no basis in fact for believing such articles are true and I unreservedly declare my interest in these being on pair with Michael O'Leary saying "free blowjobs" in front of the camera. I have considered and unreservedly accept the joint statement made by the Irish Aviation Authority and the Department of Transport on 18 September 2012 that Ryanair safety is “on a par with the safest airlines in Europe”, especially being fully aware that this might very well include Air France. I recognise that Ryanair has operated for over 28 years with an outstanding safety record and never been charged with non compliance with Boeing, FAA, European and Irish Regulations. I unreservedly apologise to Ryanair for reading the articles published and any damage that my act of reading may have caused. I have made a contribution towards further thinning of ozone layer by releasing some methane to atmosphere in recognition of the seriousness of my reading of aformentioned articles and have undertaken to Ryanair that reading will not be repeated. I also wish to apologise to any Ryanair management who may have been upset or concerned by me reading the articles. |
Some employers exploit their employees more than others though so trying to make it seem normal and accepted i don't think is a good point trying to make.
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...creating "exploatation gap" which needs to be closed if one is to remain competitive.
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Mentioning Ryanair has been known to bring on bouts of Tourettes.
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Boo ******* hoo. Pay to get ahead in your career and expect to be treated like crap. I hope they all get taxed to the hilt soon and the new intake of cadets reduces everyone's hours to less than 500 a year.
They can always quit. |
Sophie Growcoot, who was employed by Crewlink, a contractor for Ryanair |
Or pay another 40.000€ for a typerating to be able to earn ANY money and take advantage of the training and education already done becoming a pilot costing over 50.000€. thats another thread though...
I disageee Sunnyjohn, Ryanair use four or five contracting agencies for cabin crew and two for flight crew. For the 'employee' it doesn't matter which one u signed a contract with, you still face exactly the same daily duties and routines as the others doing the same job except some minor contractual differences. |
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