john_smith, even tough I understand your arguments, I think there is one small detail you've just forgotten: if, without exception, all EZ planes would be left on the ground what is going to happen to the flight crews? Legal actions against to all of them? Dismissal to everybody?! The end of EZ? I don't think so.

What is happening to EZ now is a complete disaster to everybody, and a complete disrespect to our profession. But I am afraid the problem is not only with EZ... we just need to look around (most particularly in the EU and US) to see the disaster...

Possibly not, but given UK law it probably would be the end, financially, for anyone who the company could prove helped organise such a stoppage.

busav8r,

No, they would just go after a handful of captains. Maybe sack 49 (in irony) and then, as is legally allowed in the UK, go after all their assets for compensation.

Possibly then go after the union for compensation too.

I don't fancy losing my house over this. So, legal industrial action only. And in the UK you cannot legally take any form of IA concerning matters that are not directly affecting UK members.

If there's anything really wrong here, it's the UK law.

FRying ... nail, head! The choice is ours. Lisbon is at the very front of the battle. Lose it and it will be nail, coffin. Time to stop finding excuses and park the aircraft. Short pain, long term gain. Simple.

John Smith, I'm not saying things would be straightforward. That's why I wrote it would take some planning. This needs to be well thought out and taken care of in advance with lawyers. Some sort of case needs to be built up over time in order make action fit nicely into a solid legal canvas.

But, hey ! This is not Oliver Twist times ! There is no need to act fatalist. There is no other options anyway or you'll be working for god knows what sorts of miserable salaries by 2016-2017 and will try to live some poor miserable life and health until...you die. Even if you're hiding behind one specific Captain contract for now, striving not to look at what's going on in the F/Os world, don't be fooled : you'll come under attack at some point.

Just a FWIW.

There's nothing to stop you doing any of the above, as long as you are very careful to ensure that:

1. You make it clear that these decisions were not made for "industrial" reasons or made because you were p**'d off with the company.


2. You can show that your decisions were also made on a purely personal basis and were not part of a coordinated campaign. That means being very careful about the use of any form of written communications, including text messages, e-mails, even messages on forums such as this. In the event of a dispute these days the UK courts are very likely to grant management and/or their lawyers access to all your records (cf. BALPA and Openskies, and BASSA and their relatively recent spat).

Good Luck........you'll need it if you're thinking of taking action in the UK.

LIS pilots just announced their first strike.
Apparently response rate was overwhelming.
All voted in favor with only one or two against.
The Union said they are ready to fight until the situation goes back to acceptable T&C in line with industry and easyjet standards.
Pilots are tired of games and false excuses from management and can't wait no longer.

I just want to add my2 cents...
I was supposed to start with easyJet in March but I turned it down last minute.
The feedback from the pilot community in LIS has been very negative (at least to the people I've been talking to). All the infos in this thread are real. There is no written guarantee to be renewed after feb '14 plusyou can only move to another base if they "can find a replacement", which means never...nobody wants to fly for these guys in Portugal and apparently the company is struggling big time to crew the base...
I'll stay where I am waiting for EK :}

strike confirmed apparently. more days in april as well!
rumours of direct entry pilots cancelling last minute..

worst paid contract in Europe indeed..

Welcome to Warwick's Easyjet. The only thing missing is the harp on the tail.

Well even if no one will ever admit that Warwick has been kicked out fom RYR.
Rumors are that in easyJet too his reputation amongst Management is not that good anymore
So I would not be surprised to see him out in not too long.
The only thing is achieving is upsetting the workforce by constantly throwing sand in their face... I assume more and more unrest will end up with his head...
Let's see

To be honest he only says what many of them them are thinking but he has delivered no rocket science and the company is facing what is likely to be the most industrial turmoil in its history across a lot of the network. It's been coming for a while.

Left seat
 

Hi, can anyone tell me the requirements for the LH seat in Lisbon base? How long does it take to upgrade if already joining with sufficient qualifications?

Hi All,

Given that this thread was a few years old, Has anything changed in LIS, Roster, Pay? Taxes? Time for upgrade?

Would appreciate any information,

Thanks, W2

All remains the same really. Strike was smashed by other bases. BCN contract is very similar to the Portuguese ones. TAX the same. All the info has been discussed here in detail mate. :yuk::yuk: