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Daily Dalaman Dave 1st Mar 2012 18:41

TCX Recruiting FOs
 
As per title! :ok:

Find the latest vacancies for Thomas Cook pilots

macdo 1st Mar 2012 18:55

Eyes wide open, if you fancy it. Good luck, its largely a nice place to be.

charlies angel 1st Mar 2012 19:16

Didnt they just offload some highly paid full time pilots who would have preferred to have stayed?
Who could have guessed that they would need to be replaced with much cheaper part timers so soon after the latest morale boosting purge:hmm:

Full Left Rudder 1st Mar 2012 19:36

I currently sit in the hold pool for TCX, having passed selection last year.

Not heard a word from them........?!

Not for me right now anyway, but seems all a little odd.

Capt Scribble 1st Mar 2012 20:04

People down the foot of the list jumped before they were pushed. I'm sure that they would have been happy to stay at TCX but many may have a better career as a result. To reduce costs in the winter, I suspect that TCX will be running summer only contracts for a few years.

Jonty 2nd Mar 2012 07:39

Thats only any good if you can get the staff on summer only contracts. Which at the moment I doubt they can. Especially type rated guys.

Shytehawk 2nd Mar 2012 08:58

Watch out here comes CTC

macdo 2nd Mar 2012 14:15

I would bet a fair bit against any cadet type arrangement after comments made by the Chief Pilot last week.
Short of manpower mainly due to extra lines of flying bought back in-house after the failure of 3rd. party airlines.
They have already admitted that the supply of suitable candidates is limited, if (and its a big if) more than expected jump ship to the ME, you never know, a summer contract might develop into something more permanent. Its not the safest option, but at least its in the UK!

Callsign Kilo 2nd Mar 2012 14:51

Seems a bit late in the day
 
They must be looking at unemployed 757/767 drivers or guys who can leave something at very short notice. Industry standard 3 months notice dictates the earliest start could be late June. This would be for an OCC!! You wouldn't be online until July, however in most cases August. The summer is all but finished by then. However I doubt many would leave a position to take up a job at TCX on a short term contract with a vague possibility of something permanent. It might have been worth a gamble when times were good, but now......

Are TCX looking for any remaining Astraeus drivers who haven't been hoovered up by Jet2, DHL, Emirates and the like? I totally agree with the comment that the supply of suitable candidates is limited. I'd say it is very limited. BA already commented during their DEP campaign that suitably rated 757/767 candidates were few and far between.

763 jock 3rd Mar 2012 07:59

I suspect that some of our colleagues that took the Enhanced VR will be offered an extension. Politically, it would have to be RHS due to the Reserve Captain issue. Happened last time when TCX were suddenly left short.

fade to grey 3rd Mar 2012 14:59

There's still a fair few ex - aeu fos knocking about looking for work, I can think of at least 4-5 who will apply for this.

2 Whites 2 Reds 3rd Mar 2012 22:29

With TCX having gone through some rather tough times in recent months, other than the few remaining 75/76 rated people left on the market (and there are very very few), it's difficult to see people giving up their current job for this. Even though flying in the UK is a plus, I think they might struggle to get bums on seats unfortunately. I wish them luck but I really believe they'll struggle.

spider_man 3rd Mar 2012 22:45


BA already commented during their DEP campaign that suitably rated 757/767 candidates were few and far between
Yes - BA made redundant 25 B757/767 pilots from its Paris based subsidiary in December. All have now either found alternative employment or have retired from flying duties following decades of service to UK aviation.

I also hear the CTC cadet pool is almost empty...

zerograv 4th Mar 2012 20:27

Spider

Didn't they advertised for B757 FOs some time last October? Was that only to make people redundant 2 months later? Could hardly be any more dynamic! :confused:

Sorry for deviating of the topic!

Boeing Europe 4th Mar 2012 20:41

This is great news,I have 1200TT 900 737 what are my chances..?

BlackandBrown 5th Mar 2012 06:31

Given that they don't have 737s I'd say slim to none.

CABUS 5th Mar 2012 10:07

Given that you have 500+ on a Boeing I would say its a definite maybe. TCX will struggle getting guys with experience on type as the job role is only a seasonal contract with a slim possibility of being kept on. As TCX are currently pushing loads of guys throughout TR's I think there is a very strong possibility of guys who are not rated being taken on.

fade to grey 5th Mar 2012 17:37

wow, I'd be surprised and impressed if they were TR people.But I think there will easily be enough unless they want double figures...
Any idea how many they want ?

Jonty 6th Mar 2012 06:18

Don't bother going to TCX, it's :mad:! And run by :mad:

Narrow Runway 6th Mar 2012 08:06

Jonty
 
We joined TCX around the same time in 2000/01, I'm sorry to hear it doesn't tick the boxes for you any more.

Gotta say I don't miss it for one moment. I did make a wrong turn in going to the red tail outfit in 2006, but generally haven't looked back since.

There is life outside of TCX. You just need to look in places you never thought possible.:ok:

Jonty 6th Mar 2012 08:07

I think your probably right, its time to get out. Things are only going to get worse here.

SFCC 6th Mar 2012 15:19

I'd hesitate to say it was :mad:, but it certainly isn't what it used to be, sadly.
Demotions, cancelled pay rise, vastly reduced travel concessions and low morale are all stifling the joie de vivre we all once enjoyed.:{

763 jock 6th Mar 2012 15:37

The pay rise being cancelled is news to me. This was previously agreed as part of the 3 year deal.

I would echo some of the comments above though. It is no longer a company that I would recommend.:{

SFCC 6th Mar 2012 19:22

Apologies...my mistake ref. pay rise.
Our leader wrote to us all saying no pay rises ' at any level'....however Solly was quoted in a newsletter that the 2008 RPI+2% deal would be honoured. Doh!

foxmoth 6th Mar 2012 19:43


Our leader wrote to us all saying no pay rises ' at any level'
Except I think you will find there was a clause saying

unless already agreed

Scallywag 6th Mar 2012 20:30

It's become a RGF, which is a real shame.

1. The people you fly with ARE great.
2. The pilot scheduling agreement/terms & conditions WERE great.
3. The board were NOT great and should have been taken outside and shot for allowing the semi literate spanish barrow boy to drive the group into the ground.

3 is a top gear reference and clearly in jest. Perhaps.

I fear TCX is moribund. If not, it is certainly tainted. Most of the airline management are decent enough misguided people but the even more misguided group beancounters pull their strings. I agree with 763 jock, I could no longer recommend this airline.

stop, stop, stop 7th Mar 2012 09:29

Would you care to elaborate on what the scheduling agreement/terms & conditions were and are now?

As far as I know you get 10 days off pm in the summer, 13 in winter. 42 days leave upto 50 after 5 years....Max 800hrs per year.

LIMA OR ALPHA JUNK 7th Mar 2012 14:49

Scheduling agreement is about to be attacked by the DFO again. I would suggest that there is no chance whatsoever of being kept on past October as further downsizing is a certainty next winter. Rumour has it that the West Jet contract is not being renewed next winter as the aircraft sent sat tech for 2 weeks and they were furious about it.

30 odd skippers demoted, holiday concessions rendered useless, morale lower than a snakes belly and F/Os told to relocate if they still want to work for the company.

Apart from that...;)

LVL_CHG 20th Mar 2012 16:37

Was a no for me.

Was a long shot as I'm inexperienced but was worth a try.

Good luck to those who got the call/email.

Mr-P 20th Mar 2012 19:51

Was a no for me too, again low hours but worth a try...

Boeing Europe 20th Mar 2012 22:05

When did you guys get the call e-mail...? applied the day it was announced have 1k hours on the 737,hoping that because I have heard nothing it is a good sign

LVL_CHG 20th Mar 2012 23:01

Just log in and check your application status.

SD. 20th Mar 2012 23:13

4k TT Type-rated on a non-tcx type. Big fat no....

Kyriakos 21st Mar 2012 05:41

"Thanks but no thanks" for me as well guys, its fine though, im used to it :O
Next page please.

Boeing Europe 21st Mar 2012 13:30

Just checked still says under review:ugh:any idea how many they are likely to recruit

Boeing Europe 21st Mar 2012 13:31

@S.D

What are you type rated on.....

frozenpilot 21st Mar 2012 17:00

Looking to recruit a minimum of 10, number could go up still as the summer programme has not yet been released to the Airline, which is one of the reasons why we are so inefficient. It would seem highly likely non rated pilots will be recruited due to a lack of supply and that we are under going a large number of Boeing conversions, so recruits will plug the gaps in the type ratings

SD. 21st Mar 2012 22:38

Europe - 737NG

Boeing Europe 22nd Mar 2012 01:13

Me too SD,now awaiting my big fat no as you have considerably more hours:ugh::ugh::ugh:

Turkish777 22nd Mar 2012 20:37

I spoke to HR direct via email and received this:

I’m afraid that we are only planning to recruit a small number of B757/767 type rated pilots on fixed term contracts for this summer. My personal view based on the current pilot market is that we will have to start offering type-ratings in the future but probably not until next year.

I was also B737 Rated.


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