Assymetricdrift.....i think that some of u, started to insult greeks, and Greece...u started saying about corruption, leaving outside Olympic air...
About my friends in Africa, ask them.....Don't hesitate ......U will receive the same answer.
Most of us believe that this plane fell of the sky, due to fuel "missing" from the tanks...Maybe u don't know the expression "democratic way of thinking"...
I dont want to insult , of course, a nation, but there are things that make me angry, such as the "marbles", and actually the way that our belongings are in London, instead of Athens...
Some of u insulted us.
I want this thriller to end here, because it will hurt all of us.
We are aviators, and politics must stay out.
We have completely different mentalities and way of living, thinking, reacting.
So, lets stop now here, all that crap.
:ok:

There are two things never to discuss in a pub...

Politics and religion.

So... anyway... back on topic? :)

Kali Xronia - Happy New Year
 

Wow, I have just spent the last hour reading through all of this stuff.

OK, so we all know about the history with the Old Olympic, and the down-hill struggle the new OA seems to be taking. But let's get back to the main topic shall we? Yes, lets.

To answer someone's earlier question. Several Flybe FO's are being posted out to ATH for 3 month contracts starting now-ish. There are rumours that OA may want to borrow a couple of Flybe's Q400's Summer 2011.

It seems crazy to us Brit guys that an airline can sack/make redundant permanent contract guys whilst hiring contract pilots from Parc/Flybe at the same time. But this is how Greece works as some of you have so beautifully expressed it.

I feel for the OA cabin crew who worked with Flybe for 16 months. All the Seniors were demoted back to Juniors and a lot sacked from October onwards. Maybe a thank you from Miss M for all their hard work with Flybe. (They worked under very stressful conditions, Ie. rosters suffering more disruption than any of us would ever believe and 400Euro less a month because of low flying hours (Q400) but long duty hours (lots of ground time AS etc).

The one man who we need to hear from is Venopolous (the guy who owns Marfin/Goodys etc). I'm sure he knows where he's taking the company.

I would love to return to Greece and fly the Q400. But with all that's going on in Ellada right now, its gonna be years untill there is an stability over there.

I would love to hear from any non-contract pilots working for OA at the moment. What's your opinions on the future of OA?:sad:

Olympic Air pilots won't know till the end of the summer season. All I have to say is, Aegean is the place to be in Greece right now, much more stable.

The cabin crew are being called into briefings on 'the commercial plan' this week. Something may have been lost in translation, but it basically amounted to a vague idea of doing more charter work.

Bad times indeed. I look forward to the day when Olympic staff can breathe a little easier.

Rumours say that 50 airbus pilots will be fired or can choose to go to Q400. 100 Cabin attendants will be fired. Aegean will increase his network mid haul and Olympic will increase short routes. Splitting the pie. I hope bussiness will pick up during the summer. They are looking for more pilots so fill the gaps of people leaving. Maybe the airbus pilots will not like to be 'downgraded'?

- No, it will not hurt all of us. But sorry for you to hear what non-greeks think about it.
- We are aviators, yes. But this doesn't mean to switch off our brain if something goes wrong. With OA things have always been political, or at least 99% of its long history.
- For me, the story of OA is a great example for what's wrong in Greece.

Sorry if this hurts YOUR feelings.