LTC 7000hrs 75/767 PFO and unemployed........

The attraction in VS for me is 1) a job 2) I don't have to leave home (again)

Postern.......a reality check for some of us!

Best of luck to you mate!

:ok:

No PFO or interview. I was obviously in the chief pilot's "unlucky pilots" pile.

Likewise - not heard anything.....

Artie,

I should think they probably have a large number of applications to sift through. If it were me, I'd have a "Yes", "No", and a "We'll come back to you later" pile. Perhaps you are in the latter. Remember No news is good news.

PFO for me :(, 4700TT, 1000 on A330 rest on the 737. Not too fussed probably looking at command where I am now within 3 years, wide body too. Good luck to everyone else. :ok:

8,000 hours. 757,767,320,321,330. 1,500 command hours and a no thanks. Has anyone managed a come to the next stage ? God knows what they are looking for.....

Maybe some of you are just too experienced. VS are aware of just how long time to command is in the company and don't want pilots with huge hours and command time who are going to be very disgrntled about having to wait another 12 to 15 years to get in the left hand seat again. There have been a number of those in VS. Many have left and many of those who are still there aren't happy bunnies.

Got to say guys, I think they are going through the motions. They already probably have a load of guys from Thomas Cook good to go, but have to advertise the slots in order to make it legal IMHO. Some of you guys would prob walk into the job normally, but they have a bunch of type rated peeps who are ready .....and desperate for work soon. Got the PFO myself, but just scraped the hours, so expecting it at may stage. Good luck to anyone who has snuck through!!

PFO for me as well. 5000 TT with more than 3000 on A330 and 1500 on A320. Wtf
Cheers guys

i think it a case of who you know not what you know?

I know someone with no relevant type rating, relatively modest hours and no internal connections who is joining (from last round of recruitment).

Perhaps it's the perceived quality of what you write on your CV and covering letter rather than just having x,000 hours that gets you an interview. Who knows, certainly not me, as I am still waiting for my PFO /interview.

Yep i can second that i have a friend who had an interview in Nov no relevant TR doesn't know anyone to influence things.....starts on the 747 in March!!!

Who knows how it works!!!

Good luck to those still waiting to hear.....

From what I understand from a Virgin insider, recommendations from current Virgin crew no longer work as they used to.

As has been suggested, apparently HR screening of CVs and decent covering letters is the process to select people for interview. Hours / experience are important but the way they are presented with your covering letter etc is key.

I don't have any more info and this was what a current Virgin Capt told me a few months ago.

I sat next to head of HR, gave details of a mate who had 5,000 hrs, current Capt on bizjets, 1,000 hrs A320 and he didn't get an interview. So no, it's not even worth bothering now.

Ahh yes, PFO email too, 4500 hrs 757 and widebody, plane that is. I had mates with 340 and a couple with 747 ratings and they got same.
HUman Remains have taken over the show but if it goes on a fluffy letter then there you go. I have a well paid job so no great shakes

Play their little game.
 

Virgin HR these days are led by cretins. In fact, as regards pilot selection they have been for years. They are following the example set by BA. And this is not sour grapes; I was selected for them. Who better to judge, than an inappropriate candidate? My pals who joined them have not enjoyed the experience, although a job is a job when all is said and done.
For those who need to join VS though, just play their silly game.

I relish the day when airline bean counters realize that downsizing airline HR/Recruitment departments could save them cash.

The CAA/FAA/JAA award/renew me a license based on successful completion of a CAA/FAA/JAA syllabus. What more do you need to know about a pilot when his employment is being considered that you can't gain from a quick peek at his training file and a chat in the canteen?

The whole business is utterly ludicrous in a world that is looking for efficiencies, unless of course, you have no faith in the regulator...

:eek:

But Virgin used to do it like the above AFAIK....

SR71

That he or she is not a total knob-head perhaps?


No-one ever requested my training file and even if they did - it fails to inform them of my personality, merely that I am of average ability which is enough to pass the CAA requirements to work.

Errrr, isn't that what the chat is for?

Your training file should give lots of feedback on your NOTECHs skillset, unless, of course, your instructors are just ticking the boxes?

I remain to be convinced that multiple levels of HR screening deliver a better pilot to the flightdeck than good old-fashioned (cheap) commonsense.