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Snigs 3rd Dec 2011 11:30

Ah well Nearly Man, it looks like I'm stuck in the "Saving the World" fleet rather than your gas guzzlers! ;) and anyhow you see a lot more sand on your beach than I do!! :p

winch launch 3rd Dec 2011 11:39

Hi,

Is the pilot recruitment closed already?
I can't find any jobs available using "pilots" and "first officer".....

VJW 3rd Dec 2011 12:02

Think it shut yesterday!

Stjuk 12th Dec 2011 14:39

Does anyone have some information about the latest interviews?

Love_joy 13th Dec 2011 19:21

I've heard nothing yet

Stjuk 14th Dec 2011 06:13

Love_joy

Have you done the interview recently?

If so, could you give some information about what to expect...

Thanks

0-8 14th Dec 2011 09:31

Stjuk, have you received in interview date then?

I know many people that have applied and as far as I am aware none of them has received a response from Virgin yet.

However, they are all Airbus rated and I see that you are Boeing rated so maybe they are after Boeing guys.

Has anybody received a response from Virgin yet?

Air of Despair 14th Dec 2011 10:11

I understand that several people from the last recruitment drive, who were deemed suitable but not offered an interview, have been contacted and interviewed. My guess is that Virgin will work through those applicants before moving on to the current batch.

Best of luck to all.

StopStart 22nd Dec 2011 11:53

Anyone heard anything from the last recruiting round yet?

MrHorgy 22nd Dec 2011 13:00

I should imagine we won't hear anything til at least after Christmas.. I haven't had a peep yet.

Polarhero 22nd Dec 2011 17:01

Emails have gone out for interviews.
Got one the other day.

Good luck everyone.

mach2mofo 23rd Dec 2011 09:06

Hi

Just wondering, to all those that have an interview invite (btw...nice work), have any of you got just A320 time or have you got 'Wide-body' experience? Also, did many of you upload a covering letter?

Thanks

m2m

MrHorgy 23rd Dec 2011 12:35

I eat my hat, got a PFO email today. Not surprised, i'm pretty low houred compared to the specs - good luck all who have interviews

Horgy

fade to grey 23rd Dec 2011 13:27

PFO,
8000hrs, 5 years command.

Oh well, i don't mind a PFO as long as some pilots decided it and not some YTS trainee HR bod

Fat Dog 23rd Dec 2011 13:49

PFO (again).

6200TT, 3000 P1 (737/757 mix), LTC.

Given the interview slots appear to be decided on only qualifications (e.g. no BA style questions), seriously, what do you have to do to get an interview?!

Crazy... :confused:

737 Jockey 23rd Dec 2011 13:57

Me too...PFO again!

4200 TT mostly 737
1000 PIC 737

Still, a Virgin FO once told me they say, join Virgin....gain a stone, lose a home. Maybe I'm better off...can't afford to do either! ;)

Safe flying!

:ok:

Iver 23rd Dec 2011 14:59

Not trying to be disrespectful. Just throwing some questions out to those who are interested in VS. Can someone help me understand what is the big attraction to Virgin? Why would someone leave a command at Ryan or Easy to sit as an FO at Virgin for 15 years at lower pay? If you get the 747, you have very limited routes (Caribbean and Orlando in the summer is bloody hot). I guess you have newer 787s coming in a few years and the FAs are very attractive - those are some positives. If you can't stand the Ryan and Easy schedules, I guess VS would be an improvement.

Just trying to under the rationale considering the very long upgrade time. Any thoughts?

Happy holidays!

FlyingRat 23rd Dec 2011 15:24

4500 TT - 1200 PIC (737) PFO...

Firestorm 23rd Dec 2011 15:40

6000 TT, 2800 737, PFO. No idea what they are looking for, but whatever it was I didn't have it.

Attraction of VS: I don't have a job at the moment.

Fat Dog 23rd Dec 2011 16:06


Not trying to be disrespectful. Just throwing some questions out to those who are interested in VS. Can someone help me understand what is the big attraction to Virgin? Why would someone leave a command at Ryan or Easy to sit as an FO at Virgin for 15 years at lower pay? If you get the 747, you have very limited routes (Caribbean and Orlando in the summer is bloody hot). I guess you have newer 787s coming in a few years and the FAs are very attractive - those are some positives. If you can't stand the Ryan and Easy schedules, I guess VS would be an improvement.

Just trying to under the rationale considering the very long upgrade time. Any thoughts?

Happy holidays!
All 100% correct.

Bit different when you don't currently have a job though...

postern 23rd Dec 2011 16:06

LTC 7000hrs 75/767 PFO and unemployed........

The attraction in VS for me is 1) a job 2) I don't have to leave home (again)

737 Jockey 23rd Dec 2011 17:03

Postern.......a reality check for some of us!

Best of luck to you mate!

:ok:

Artie Fufkin 23rd Dec 2011 18:50

No PFO or interview. I was obviously in the chief pilot's "unlucky pilots" pile.

StopStart 23rd Dec 2011 19:55

Likewise - not heard anything.....

MrHorgy 23rd Dec 2011 20:28

Artie,

I should think they probably have a large number of applications to sift through. If it were me, I'd have a "Yes", "No", and a "We'll come back to you later" pile. Perhaps you are in the latter. Remember No news is good news.

flyforfood1 23rd Dec 2011 20:59

PFO for me :(, 4700TT, 1000 on A330 rest on the 737. Not too fussed probably looking at command where I am now within 3 years, wide body too. Good luck to everyone else. :ok:

LIMA OR ALPHA JUNK 25th Dec 2011 23:50

8,000 hours. 757,767,320,321,330. 1,500 command hours and a no thanks. Has anyone managed a come to the next stage ? God knows what they are looking for.....

Dan Winterland 26th Dec 2011 02:26

Maybe some of you are just too experienced. VS are aware of just how long time to command is in the company and don't want pilots with huge hours and command time who are going to be very disgrntled about having to wait another 12 to 15 years to get in the left hand seat again. There have been a number of those in VS. Many have left and many of those who are still there aren't happy bunnies.

The Eternal JP 26th Dec 2011 20:01

Got to say guys, I think they are going through the motions. They already probably have a load of guys from Thomas Cook good to go, but have to advertise the slots in order to make it legal IMHO. Some of you guys would prob walk into the job normally, but they have a bunch of type rated peeps who are ready .....and desperate for work soon. Got the PFO myself, but just scraped the hours, so expecting it at may stage. Good luck to anyone who has snuck through!!

airbuddy 27th Dec 2011 12:49

PFO for me as well. 5000 TT with more than 3000 on A330 and 1500 on A320. Wtf
Cheers guys

Pin Head 27th Dec 2011 18:49

i think it a case of who you know not what you know?

Artie Fufkin 27th Dec 2011 21:59

I know someone with no relevant type rating, relatively modest hours and no internal connections who is joining (from last round of recruitment).

Perhaps it's the perceived quality of what you write on your CV and covering letter rather than just having x,000 hours that gets you an interview. Who knows, certainly not me, as I am still waiting for my PFO /interview.

Dan 98 28th Dec 2011 14:51

Yep i can second that i have a friend who had an interview in Nov no relevant TR doesn't know anyone to influence things.....starts on the 747 in March!!!

Who knows how it works!!!

Good luck to those still waiting to hear.....

skyflyer737 1st Jan 2012 07:06

From what I understand from a Virgin insider, recommendations from current Virgin crew no longer work as they used to.

As has been suggested, apparently HR screening of CVs and decent covering letters is the process to select people for interview. Hours / experience are important but the way they are presented with your covering letter etc is key.

I don't have any more info and this was what a current Virgin Capt told me a few months ago.

xray one 1st Jan 2012 12:04


From what I understand from a Virgin insider, recommendations from current Virgin crew no longer work as they used to.
I sat next to head of HR, gave details of a mate who had 5,000 hrs, current Capt on bizjets, 1,000 hrs A320 and he didn't get an interview. So no, it's not even worth bothering now.

Nearly Man 2nd Jan 2012 05:39

Ahh yes, PFO email too, 4500 hrs 757 and widebody, plane that is. I had mates with 340 and a couple with 747 ratings and they got same.
HUman Remains have taken over the show but if it goes on a fluffy letter then there you go. I have a well paid job so no great shakes

Mr.Bloggs 2nd Jan 2012 06:27

Play their little game.
 
Virgin HR these days are led by cretins. In fact, as regards pilot selection they have been for years. They are following the example set by BA. And this is not sour grapes; I was selected for them. Who better to judge, than an inappropriate candidate? My pals who joined them have not enjoyed the experience, although a job is a job when all is said and done.
For those who need to join VS though, just play their silly game.

SR71 2nd Jan 2012 12:23

I relish the day when airline bean counters realize that downsizing airline HR/Recruitment departments could save them cash.

The CAA/FAA/JAA award/renew me a license based on successful completion of a CAA/FAA/JAA syllabus. What more do you need to know about a pilot when his employment is being considered that you can't gain from a quick peek at his training file and a chat in the canteen?

The whole business is utterly ludicrous in a world that is looking for efficiencies, unless of course, you have no faith in the regulator...

:eek:

But Virgin used to do it like the above AFAIK....

eagerbeaver1 2nd Jan 2012 15:40

SR71

That he or she is not a total knob-head perhaps?


No-one ever requested my training file and even if they did - it fails to inform them of my personality, merely that I am of average ability which is enough to pass the CAA requirements to work.

SR71 2nd Jan 2012 18:23


That he or she is not a total knob-head perhaps?
Errrr, isn't that what the chat is for?


No-one ever requested my training file and even if they did - it fails to inform them of my personality, merely that I am of average ability which is enough to pass the CAA requirements to work.
Your training file should give lots of feedback on your NOTECHs skillset, unless, of course, your instructors are just ticking the boxes?

I remain to be convinced that multiple levels of HR screening deliver a better pilot to the flightdeck than good old-fashioned (cheap) commonsense.


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