BA Cityflyer Recruiting
 

Hi there!!!

Just came up in Flight.

Captains and First Officers - 1400979461 - Flight Jobs

All the best to everyone having a go at it!!!

Cheers,
Zero

Zero,

That link takes me to the BACF home page, and there's only one vacancy listed, non-flying.

Any ideas?

Indeed, what is in Flight is not listed in their jobs page.

Might come up in the coming days, me thinks .... :)

Safe flights,
Zero

Yep me too, nothing showing at the moment, I guess wait a few days and hopefully should come up then, deadline is not till end of the month anyway!

How does one have performance class A? Does it mean have knowledge of perf A, have additional courses in perf A or a type rating on a perf A operated aircraft? :bored:

Edit: anyone knows if it's commutable?

Just checked, it's definitely there!!
Type rating on the E jet an advantage!!

Hmm, I wonder which regional uk E jet operator has lots of fed up crews looking for better t&c???
:confused:

Me too,

I cant find anything on there Website and the link goes to the main flightglobal page?

MAB :ok:

So has anyone got a credible link?

Thanks

CC

Just checked the link... looking on the flight website I can not see any jobs advertised for BA Cityflyer.
Maybe it was posted in error i.e. too early.........

RJ.

:O Update..... I have been in touch with the powers at the Towers and I'd keep a close eye on the BA Cityflyer Jobs website. Numbers required will fill a few new shinny Embraer jets when options taken.

There was an advert in Flight which was posted today at around 11:59 AM.

Now it's no longer there. :O May be they removed the advertisement.

Lets hope that it comes up again shortly.

Cheers,
Zero

I saw it
 

Hey zero, I saw the ad too but no mention of it on their website and like others are saying the link just took you back to Flight Global's main jobs page. Hopefully they will open it properly soon.

Perf A
 

bfisk - pre-JAR ATPLs, Perf A was a separate exam in addition to the national ATPL theory exams. JAR Performance covers all the old Perf A stuff.

Ad was definately there on flight jobs page, just next to mainline.
It is now gone, as others have said maybe it was posted too early in error!!
Guess just watch this space.....

It's on the IPA website.
I guess we just wait........

PPJN Data
 

PPJN gives Capt starting salary as £57k but is unclear if that data is from Mar 2010 or Oct 2008.

Can anyone verify ?

That was the pay data after our last pay deal in 2008. Up until this week they were the scales we were using.

We have just agreed (this week) to a 2% pay deal that will be back dated until July 1st 2010. So add 2% onto those scales and you'll get our new scales.

We also took a pay freeze in July 2009 until July 2010 on our yearly increment . So basically we did not move up the scales for a year.

Pay is Poor, Moral is at an all time low...... shall I go on?

RJ.

'Hmm, I wonder which regional uk E jet operator has lots of fed up crews looking for better t&c???'

That pay is nothing short of diabolical! The UK ejet operator won't be losing anyone at that rate, only a smidgen more than they are paying their turbo drivers!

Would that be anything to do with the management by any chance?? :rolleyes:

I stand ready to be corrected but I think BA Cityflyer are the worst paying E-jet operator in the world.

Anyone with an E-jet rating who is out of work might well be interested but I do not think the FlyBe guys will be beating the door down.

They are also the lowest paying airline in London.

I've been told that the folk flying their E-jets into LCY with Lufty paint on the tail are paid about twice as much as the mugs at City Flyer. Is that correct?

Couple of general questions:

What kind of trips, all day trips or any overnights?

Is LCY a senior base? How long to get in there?

Have they taken DEC without type rating before, assuming current and experienced on similar size JAR25 ac?

What's the schedule like for a new hire?

As for worst paying E-Jet operator in the world, I think you'll find that honor belongs on the other side of the pond...

tdk

Trips? Plenty. Some up to six days away. There are day trips but touring is normal. If hired, expect to be away, quite a bit.

LCY senior.... Well, initially there was only the EDI base. Then LCY base was added. Now, progress/ promotion in EDI is not happening. All new hires will prolly be at LCY. As no doubt will most departures....Morale is poor with many hoping to get out. Hard to see how leavers could find a job paying less.

Many of the senior line pilots are at EDI.

Have they taken DEC? Yes.

What's the schedule for a newbie? Same as an oldie. Expect to work. Hard.

Worst paying etc....Yep, but I think you'll find that an E-jet pilot in say, China, while paid less than BACF is still a rich man in China.

Whereas his better paid pilot friend in London...............:hmm:

Thanks BB..DECs?

tdk, yup! see edit above, thanks.

Really it's not too bad if you like flying but the pay could be better and the time off more plentiful.

I like it, but it could improve!:)

Thanks..sounds similar to where I'm at now..just trying to get a little closer to home :)

Quick question for anyone in the know at BACF:

The ad on the IPA website says 1000hrs multi crew jet PIC for DECs. Do we think they'll get many applicants with that kind of experience for the terms they're offering, or will turboprop captains with no jet time (ie me!) get a look in?

Just had a conversation with HR, and apparently it was an error. :{

D and F :8

From an internal source: Once the last E190 G-LCYN is delivered in three weeks, Big BA will make a decision on the two options. If they decide to buy, they will recruit, using the quickly withdrawn advertisement.

Funny - I heard the same thing today;)

ATP AL,
I don't think they will have a problem sadly in the current marketplace.
Quite fancy a return to shorthaul myself...

@ BB. You are right about the Lufti guys. Plus, I believe, the are also on the mainline lufti seniority list.

Incl the new paydeal our pay is rumored to still be 7% below the Flybe Dash guys. We're also lowest paid jet pilots in the UK. (comparing similar operations)

The f/o's in the holdpool have been told to expect an announcement about their future before years end. (rumor mill)

Hey BB,

How nice to see you making a contribution here once more! I must say when I bumped into you a few weeks ago in EDI, you looked well on your Cityflyer lifestlye, but just think of the fun you could have had, without all the stress if you had stayed with Europe's No1 Regional Airline! ;)

Hey ho, old fruit!

Lord MB.

BB,

"Yep, but I think you'll find that an E-jet pilot in say, China, while paid less than BACF is still a rich man in China"

That should be the company motto :E

The ad was in the print edition of FI; though still nothing on the BACF jobs website. :confused:

It sounds like it was in error to be honest

Hi,

Ad on their website too for Fo and DEC.

Regards

"Remuneration : Competitive including airline benefits." - Competitive with what? A flying instructor?

"...will include an element of touring around Europe." - So an element of touring is 15 nights away per month!

I appreciate if you're out of work and need to pay the bills you're going to apply and good luck but dear help anyone that gets in!

Integrated = Old mentality. How so?

I'm not asking to aggravate, it's only I thought there was a fairly solid argument that an Integrated course produces a different kind of Pilot - and possibly this is more what BACF are looking for?

Yes they are special alright!!!:yuk:

Point proved nicely Mikebert4:D

Well is the application asking if you have done an integrated course, or is it a requirement?

Atreyu:ok:

Asking a pilot with thousands of hours which flying school he went to is a bit like asking a post-graduate where he went to primary school. :D :ugh: