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ETOPS 14th Sep 2010 12:49

GSS recruiting
 
Saw this in "Flight"


Vacancies

Due to anticipated expansion with delivery of three B747-8F aircraft next year we have vacancies based at Stansted, UK, for:

B747-400F/-8F First Officers

The minimum qualifications are:-


Total Time 3000hrs with 500hrs on multi-engine turbine
Valid CAA/JAA ATPL with Class 1 Medical
The right to work in the UK
Preference will be given to pilots with Jet Airliner experience

Previous applicants are asked to reapply.

Frequently Asked Questions (updated 09 September 2010)



CVs should be sent to Kim Jeffery, Global Supply Systems, Room 13, Stansted House, Stansted Airport, Essex, CM24 1AE.
Tel: 01279 682908.
Email: [email protected]

Iver 14th Sep 2010 14:48

Isn't the pay ridiculously low for this operator? Are we talking regional wages to fly a 744F worldwide?

cessnapete 14th Sep 2010 15:27

Iver
 
Yes, lowish pay but they are awash with applicants every time they recruite.
Lots of people would like a rating and fly a B744F or new B748F worldwide for that money.

A very friendly and efficient operation. More than can be said for some non- UK cargo operators,

Firestorm 14th Sep 2010 15:40

9k upfront deposit is a bit of a steep one though! I know it's refundable, but still a big cheque to write at the start of a new job! But it is a billion times better than anything that Easy Jet or Ryan Air have got to offer.

Deep and fast 14th Sep 2010 17:36

:mad: that was a waste of an e mail.

D and F :8

Coffin Corner 14th Sep 2010 18:05

In what way D & F ?

Deep and fast 14th Sep 2010 19:47

I'm a little short of £9000 at the moment. But maybe they have a funding stream available.

D and F :8

binsleepen 14th Sep 2010 21:48

ETOPS

Thanks for the heads up, I applied this afternoon. I spoke to GSS HR and they said that they were looking for around 20 FOs which is encouraging.

I agree that £9000 is a bit steep but you do get it back in months 19-36 unlike the £30000 or so you have to pay easy, jet2 or ryan. It certainly appears to be the best gig in town at the moment although things do seem to be accelerating quickly in a positive direction.

Regards

Busbar 14th Sep 2010 22:31

Having done a thread search, it came up with a lot of interesting things about GSS. However, it all appears to be several years old now.

Does anybody have any new information about the current interview process and how the Pilots feel about the company at the moment?

It appears to be a good opportunity and it is nice to see that things are picking up at last!

Good luck to all those that apply :ok:

hotelmodemetar 15th Sep 2010 07:05

[QUOTE]Yes, lowish pay QUOTE]

How much?

Firestorm 15th Sep 2010 07:14

the salary is quoted on the frequently asked questions page.

169west 15th Sep 2010 07:57

Did Boeing fix the pressurization problem on the -8?

Mister Geezer 15th Sep 2010 08:21

Time to command? :E

Coffin Corner 15th Sep 2010 08:46

26 years ;)

169west 15th Sep 2010 09:01


26 years
from the end of training and if you are lucky!

CLB-1 15th Sep 2010 09:51

Any sign of staff travel? I understand there's none at the moment.

San Expiry 15th Sep 2010 10:13

'Benefits include away-from-base allowances (£2.00 per hour, plus £10 per hotel night overseas)- do I read that as £10 night-stop allowance? Wouldn't buy a beer in some hotels I know.

And is BA still parachuting new captains in?

free at last 15th Sep 2010 10:33

Waste of Time
 
All you are going to is a gear switch jerker as the BA guys will do that to you. The 800 has no gear handle. Good Luck.!

zeddb 23rd Sep 2010 12:25

Anyone heard anything yet?

binsleepen 23rd Sep 2010 12:39

Hi,

I haven't. I rang them early last week and spoke to HR and she said that the Chf Plt would be reviewing all the applications in between trips so it might take up to 3 weeks to hear back.

Regards

Deano777 23rd Sep 2010 12:59

Nothing, but then I only sent the CV off yesterday.

Anyone know anything about the interview process?

169west 23rd Sep 2010 13:03


Nothing, but then I only sent the application form off yesterday.
Didn't know there is an application from! Dude can you please explain, thanks!

Deano777 23rd Sep 2010 13:20

Sorry 169west, that is misleading, I meant my CV :)

zeddb 23rd Sep 2010 15:32

binsleepen: thanks for the info. I spoke to lady K as well, very friendly and happy to answer questions.

Deano: My info was that it involves a chat with two or three interviewers and thats about it. No mention of simulators but it could depend on experience level etc.

Anyone here type rated? ( I am but not current).

Propellerhead 24th Sep 2010 09:58

I believe BA FOs are still getting commands in GSS, but this is fair enough as it is flying BA cargo which was originally in-house. This is a long standing agreement with BALPA which allows BA to use a 3rd party cargo operator.

Mach_Krit 24th Sep 2010 12:16

Hi all,

I was just wondering what kind of experience all of you have that applied for this position? Thanks for the replies

21-Lancer 24th Sep 2010 13:00

GSS Re: [...] Pilot Application
 
Something like
"[...] Your application is being considered and
we will be in touch with you again as soon as possible. [...]".

Anyone else?

Brix 25th Sep 2010 10:28

Quick and dirty
 
If the majority of the company is British, are the same measures to apply constant pressure on the pilots applied as elsewhere, i.e. checking, grading, reporting? Or is this regarded as 'old fashioned'?

zeddb 29th Sep 2010 17:10

Getting close to 3 weeks now. Anyone had any contact? Really don't want to pester by ringing up.

Coffin Corner 29th Sep 2010 17:53

Nothing here yet zeddb

manxcat 29th Sep 2010 20:51

Second Officers
 
Hi all,

Not having the experience to apply for a FO position, I wondered if GSS employ Second Officers on their 747 fleet as TNT did/do?

Any advice greatfully recieved.

The Cat :ok:

Mach_Krit 29th Sep 2010 20:55

nothing here either...

bleeds off 29th Sep 2010 21:24

Why would they advertise such relatively low minimums if they know the market is flooded with highly experienced pilots ?

....3000 TT / 500 hrs multi-eng turbine....:bored:

zeddb 30th Sep 2010 09:05


Why would they advertise such relatively low minimums if they know the market is flooded with highly experienced pilots ?

1: To gauge the market? see who's out there. There are other UK airlines recruiting or about to, including Virgin and BA.

2: Many more experienced guys are heading off to the Middle/Far east where the money is significantly better and you are more likely to get a command inside of ten years. Very important to some.

3: The minimums will exclude the p2f tribe and the hordes from OAT/CTC etc so it can't be all bad. About time experienced guys got a look in after the last 18 months. Some of us depend on this business to live.

4: The difference between the minimum requirements and the experience levels of those actually taken on could and probably will be significant. All market driven as usual.

Coffin Corner 30th Sep 2010 09:09

Zeddb

Point 4. In which direction? Up or down?

buzzc152 30th Sep 2010 10:14

Anyone know approx how many flying hours/year with GSS ?

What would be the total gross pay including FDP, hotel allowance and salary in the low-mid £40k ?

Thx

zeddb 30th Sep 2010 10:30


Point 4. In which direction? Up or down?
Given that most UK recruitment in the last year has been almost exclusively "cadets" and most future openings at other UK operators will be going the same route, there are a significant number of experienced pilots unable to get anywhere as a result, I would therefore imagine that the level will be up.

I have in excess of 8000hrs and a lot of heavy jet time, including the 744 and I have been sitting at home for the last 12 months whilst 200hr guys off the OAT conveyor belt have been getting what few jobs are available at the likes of J2 and Ryan and Flybe (and paying for the privilege) I very much doubt that I am the only one.

I'm sure that there will be plenty of people "having a go" with 1500 hrs on TP's and good luck to them but GSS will probably have a largish number of people with a lot of relevant experience to choose from. I know that the aviation world has gone collectively crackers over the last year or two but I reckon experience will for once count in this instance. I certainly hope so.


Unless of course, everyone else has gone to Emirates.:}

Coffin Corner 30th Sep 2010 10:43

I see your point zeddb, but just as a side note I wonder how many guys/gals like yourself are actually sat at home with the relevant hours/experience that are ready to fill all the positions they have? Current and employed jet pilots right now would do well to take the job with GSS and come out of it with a salary increase based on what they are offering. It is for this reason that I have applied, I come in just shy of the 3,000hrs required and I would absolutely love to work at GSS, freight is the way forward :} . Time will tell I guess.

CC

zeddb 30th Sep 2010 10:52

Coffin,

Depends on how many positions they have. That depends on how many of the 744's are staying on. If all the new aircraft are replacements then they will only have to fill positions due to retirement/leavers. From what a previous poster has said, that has yet to be finalised.

Given that most LH operations operate at approx 8/9 crews per aircraft depending on the percentage of heavy crew operations the numbers could vary from bug*er all to a reasonable number.

Sadly the batteries in my crystal ball have run down so I'll be waiting to see the same as everyone else.

Those of us at home on hoovering and shopping duties do have the advantage of being instantly available even if we have started to forget what all the buttons and things do.

Good luck anyway.

dustyprops 30th Sep 2010 10:53

Apparently GSS "swamped" with applications according to a mate thats trying there. He's been told they have significant numbers current on -400 that have applied. Wonder where they are from?


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