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Coppi 25th Dec 2009 09:03

Forgive my ignorance, which company is OAA?

747JJ 25th Dec 2009 11:10

OAA = Oxford Aviation Academy

Some are good some are bad. There seems to be no average operator, the guys I flew with (As Capt) where either extremely sharp or so bad that it made me think if one can buy a licence or obtain it from a box of cornflakes?

One common denominator is the huge cultural divide between Westeners and people CIS countries and the very basic command of English language. My better half being Ukrainian I am dealing with this daily. However in the Cockpit and cabin alike this means more often than not, misunderstandings and conflicts resulting from the above.

Another problem is the Soviet style system where you need to have a millions of papers and stamps to operate an aircraft. The whole CAA structure run by old Aeroflot muppets will not change, though it needs to, until the last of the old school have gone.

AlvinZane 25th Dec 2009 16:14

Russian contracts
 
Been there, done that...
One of the most enjoyable contracts I have had. The biggest challenge was the language barrier and basic conceptual communication. At first I was ready to pull my hair out. Coming from an air carrier that was known for it's Hitler mentality, it took a while to lighten up and try to approach the root of the issue.

Along with the automated technological issues such no computer projected flight planning or reporting. Everything was back to the basics and completed by the F/O before door closure. WX and other environmental reports could be 48 hours old and of no use. I remember being stuck in another country because the dispatch people back home did not understand why I needed some confusing info such as a take-off alternate. It was CATII/III there when we wanted to depart. We took a six hour delay before the issue was resolved, then the fog had cleared.

MX personnel were quicker to sign of the log, rather than fix the problem.
Some would actual call the interpreter to understand what the write up meant.

Once I learned to lighten up and work with the issue, instead of screaming my bloody head off, life became enjoyable and I saw progress.

I really enjoyed it there, at times think about going back. Accommodations were good, salary was never less than 6500 euro's a month and the food was fantastic. Biggest issue in Russia right now is the old guys and gals converting to today's international World of Aviation. The guys and gals that don't need CRM get hammered with it and the ones that need it never have an fricken clue about what it is. Once that generation goes away, Russian aviation will accelerate at a marvelous rate.

Microburst2002 26th Dec 2009 07:43

Warniiiiiiiiiiiiiing!!!
 
This is the second post regarding russia and pilots.

Don't you realise that if Russia opens to foreign pilots, our countries will accordingly open to Russian pilots??????

IF SO, WE ARE FU*KED, FUC*ED, AND F*CKED

:{

act700 26th Dec 2009 08:37

Paranoia..........will destroy ya..........

Lighten up Microburst.

Whatever happened to hiring based on experience and qualification? Oh, right.......

I'd rather fly in the back with a drunk russian who's got stick and rudder skills than with our 250 hour wonders who are clueless when the "operating system" takes a dump!

Aviaservice 26th Dec 2009 11:22

Take it easy guys! I've asked about other thing! See the first post!

Aviaservice 26th Dec 2009 11:36

If Russians wanted to work for foreign companies they would do it. Russians love Russia despite the problems which we have!
:} ;)

Microburst2002 30th Dec 2009 20:41

I am sure you all do love mother Russia.

But it is human nature to look for better salaries. Same as many americans and europeans go to the Middle East bacause they pay better and tax free, Many russians would come to Europe. Not only O'leary would love that, but any other airline, because pilot salaries would be halved in no time.

Paranoia?
I don't think so
Fear
Certainly.

Aviaservice 31st Dec 2009 20:05

Happy new year!
 
Happy new year!

747JJ 31st Dec 2009 21:22

С новым годом:} Наслаждайся Санкт-Петербургом

varigflier 31st Dec 2009 21:34

I would go if the package included a Russian wife:)
Happy New Year!!!!!!!!

VF

dessas 1st Jan 2010 13:35

Varig
 
U must be a sorry 5 foot fat ugly piece of s--t.
Or else you wouldn't be after a Russian wife as contract benefit with all those free ones about?!
What if they give you a nasty big бабушка?
:):):)
:ok:

747JJ 1st Jan 2010 13:48

Dessas. You must be kidding right := Per capita I would say that Ukraine and Russia have more good looking women around than most of the European countries. One could find a Babushka with a beard and 200kg of "Insulation" but why settle for that?:}

Capetonian 1st Jan 2010 13:57


Per capita I would say that Ukraine and Russia have more good looking women around than most of the European countries.
Many are are good looking until they reach the age of about 30, or find a husband, whichever happens first, then they tend to start to go off in a big way. I'm not sure about Ukraine though, I spent 3 weeks in Kiev once and didn't see anything that I would consider less than a 5 bottle of wine handicap, although on a weekend in Odessa I have to admit the standard was higher.


How to spot a millionaire :
http://www.sharechat.co.za/index.php/fa/1224/0/

747JJ 1st Jan 2010 14:04

To pick a woman, check what her mother looks like. Chances are that if she is a porker your dream girl will look about the same in due time :eek:

varigflier 1st Jan 2010 14:11

Dessas, you can always get a new one so why worry about it?
Thanks 747JJ!!

VF

Aviaservice 5th Jan 2010 10:24

One day I was looking PLAYBOY and I saw there very nice stewardesses from Varig! We're ready to exchange! ;)

lpokijuhyt 5th Jan 2010 10:38

They're still commies

Aviaservice 5th Jan 2010 10:49

what are you talking about?

act700 5th Jan 2010 13:07

Aviaservice,

I wouldn't put too much into what that cat (lpokijuhyt) is saying/writing!

Judging by a couple of his/her comments on a couple of other threads, we're dealing with a complete tool!


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