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dannyalliga 3rd Nov 2009 00:03

Ryanair cost cutting plan
 
I would like to open a thread for FR managers to read and implement revolutionary and modern ideas to cut costs , improve efficency and add value for our shareholders.
I will start with a couple of ideas that a colleague came up with a few days ago, you can all add yours and let's hope our wise managers will implement them:

1- closure of all crewrooms and briefings to be done directly on aircraft with paperwork printed by F/O on his own printer and paper back home before coming to the airport
2-duty could this way start 15 minutes before ETD
3-crew to buy and carry their own fire gloves,life vests,PBE,crash axe and BCF bottle
4-loadsheets to be done on a re-usable plastic sample and then signed copy sent to dispatcher with an MMS from Capt.'s own phone
5-weight loss campaign to be launched amongst crews with minimum loss 10 kilos in 6 months in order to lower average standard weights and allow more payload

Your turn guys now, let's make this airline a better workplace!!

captjns 3rd Nov 2009 00:33

Earth to dannyalliga... earth to dannyalliga... come in dannyalliga. Hello!!!! anyone home? April Fools Day is still five months away:}:}. I love it though!

If the process ain't broken... then don't fix it. Oh wait... this may be the next standard for crews:eek:.

FLEXPWR 3rd Nov 2009 00:52

What? All these things haven't been done already? :} :}

bumba 3rd Nov 2009 07:31

who will transition to Airbus...
 
which pilots will transition to Airbus when the CEO will cut all the bridges with Boeing?
ATW Daily News

captjns 3rd Nov 2009 07:37


which pilots will transition to Airbus when the CEO will cut all the bridges with Boeing?
De javu. from the original purchase agreement way back when.

Rudi747 3rd Nov 2009 09:30

very good!
 
i think it's a great idea! but first:
  • if you want to be a pilot, you don't pay anything!
at this time, you must pay about 70000€ to became a professional pilot.. and now, you want that a fisrt officer prit the documents at his house?

Navigator33 3rd Nov 2009 09:40

Ehm Rudi...

BigNumber 3rd Nov 2009 09:50

I still cannot begin to understand why the TR package is still Euro 33K.

Surely, being the only gig in town, it is not unrealistic to price the 'dowry' accordingly.

I think Euro 45K is not unrealistic. THEY WILL STILL BEG FOR THE CHANCE!

Frankly, they will "fly" off the shelf.

UncleTravelingMatt 4th Nov 2009 08:13

Replace push back trucks with cabin crew on airport stand by. They are there for free anyways...:}

Cough 4th Nov 2009 09:35

Always land with a tailwind to lower the fuel burn on final

welliewanger 4th Nov 2009 21:07

All staff are to purchase pedometers (step counters). At the end of the month step totals should be submitted to payroll and a "carpet and floor wear and tear" fee shall be deducted from salaries. Employees (sorry, "contractors") are advised (not) to take steps to reduce costs.

Flintstone 4th Nov 2009 21:33


Originally Posted by welliewanger
Employees (sorry, "contractors") are advised (not) to take steps to reduce costs.

Very droll :D

G-AWZK 4th Nov 2009 21:39

Now why not get petty and ban staff from plugging phone chargers in? Make the staff buy their own stationary, or better yet tell them to steal it from hotels.

You couldn't make it up. :eek:

dire straits 4th Nov 2009 23:23

Steal from hotels........
We are never in hotels, either sleeping in our cars or in a lowcost B&B!!

G-AWZK 4th Nov 2009 23:32

I didn't say that you stayed in hotels, did I? :}

It was from a Wall Street Journal interview:

MOL "We at Ryanair have a policy of stealing hotel pens. We won't pay for Bic biros as part of our obsession with low costs".

RadAlt 5th Nov 2009 00:09


We at Ryanair have a policy of stealing hotel pens
It's the managers that stay in the hotels though, when they do their annual (or twice a year now!) tour around Europe to telle veryone about more paycuts because RYR made €2million net profit a day over the last 6 months!:rolleyes:

dannyalliga 5th Nov 2009 02:49

1- Have the fuel figures and landing info sent to ground handling via SMS at Captain's own expense using the onboard ONAIR system (I guess it's .5 euro cents each message multiplied by approximately 600 flights a day it should come out with an approximate 110.000 euros/year).

2- Get rid of cleaners at the end of the day and just use the last crew to land to deep clean the aircraft since duty times end at blocks on and crew could be legally used for a couple more hours (cleaning products to be bought at own cost of course)

3- Have the Captains doing mandatory PA's advertising scratch cards and bus tickets to improve sales (we all know that the Captain's authoritative voice could do the trick).

4- Sandwiches and pizzas to be prepared by cabin crew at home in their own time and at their own expenses and to be sold onboard with the money going to FR

5- Pilots to invite kids into flightdeck after flight to make pictures and videos of them at a cost

Capt Pit Bull 5th Nov 2009 09:13

1. Shut down an engine at top of descent.

2. Shut down BOTH engines at top of descent.

stansdead 5th Nov 2009 12:18

Capt Pit Bull,

You obviously have no idea.

Ryanair would prefer you to switch off an engine immediately after takeoff.

Why waste money and fuel in the climb and cruise? After all, the aircraft is designed to be able to fly on a single engine.....:ok:

whatdoesthisbuttondo 5th Nov 2009 12:44

Ask new pilots to pay Ryanair to work for them.

It's the logical next step after getting them to pay for interviews, sim assessments, training, uniforms, crew food, I.Ds, car park passes etc etc. . . .

Ryanair pilots wouldn't even stop it happening, as long as they had a job and the company was making money.

I bet the managers will be taking notes from this thread.

lowcostdolly 5th Nov 2009 14:31

And I bet they are taking notes!!!! :eek::eek:

This thread is being talked about by some orange crew as well. It's the funniest thing we have seen for a long time...:D:D:D
A tad worried though because when I'm on airport standby as CC I'm paid.... albeit a pittance.I might actually be expected to earn my money now :uhoh:

Just imagine some "forward thinking" manager at orangeland might actually plagerise these ideas as their own so not only would they have CC pushing back the planes but CC are expensive on airport standby at EZY so why not utilise them for the following at EZY or FR:
  • Baggage loading....why pay a loader when the airport standby CC can do it??:}
  • Re fueling the plane....how hard can it be really?? A CC could manage it. After all you only have to stick the pipe in the wing don't you? Nothing else matters at this point other than OTP.....hopefully??:hmm:
  • Gate revenue.....how have any LOCO managers missed this one!!! We all know the CC are on board to create ancillary revenue don't we??. Why carry their extra wieght if not neccesary. Do the service at the gate on boarding. In fact proof of purchase could supersede the boarding card :E !!! Furthermore we could sell them seatbelts, loo tokens etc at this point as well
But what about safety? Well we can always rely on the fact that pax don't give a monkeys about the CC contribution to this anyway. However the CAA are so damn picky.....they want briefings and ABP's :uhoh:

Why not do the safety briefing pre flight at the boarding gate? To check SLF understanding we could do a competition (paid entry of course) where the highest score gets an emergency exit row and some legroom aka an ABP....after all anyone can open a door right?? That has been previously posted on PPrune....:rolleyes:

For reassurance purposes we could have some CC "mini me's"!! Inflatables at the exits to make the SLF think we are actually there but they actually weigh nothing.....OMG I forgot about fuel efficency until now.

In case anyone is wondering I post in jest and have the ability to laugh at both companies. Who knows what may be policy next week :ugh:

Keep it coming people......hilarious:):):)

Dufo 5th Nov 2009 19:53

Penalize flight crew for flying any distance greater than great circle departure to destination + 50NM. Shout, yell, beg and squeeze that ATC!!

h3dxb 5th Nov 2009 19:54

ENGILOT's
 
I would install ENGILOT's.

Train the lazy buggers in the front as engineers, ENGINEER + PILOT = ENGILOT

They sit the whole turn around in the cockpit, damn, when they break something, they should fix it themself....would safe a fortune :ugh:

peterinmadrid 6th Nov 2009 01:57

Charge passengers an extra 10 pounds each not to be punched squarly in the face on boarding the plane.

ALFRED 6th Nov 2009 02:54

Captains all have Gold Mater Cards, havn't they ?
I'm pretty sure Fuel Truck Drivers take Master cards. Or CC's one. Ask them. :p

jetopa 6th Nov 2009 08:17

Install a frequent-flyer loyalty programme and force every employee to fly a minimum amount of legs (full fare, of course) every year and to acquire friends / family to do the same. If the targeted number of flights at the end of the year is not being met, deduct something from the salaries.

It's their job, isn't it? Everyone on FR's payroll should get involved.

Microburst2002 7th Nov 2009 06:54

You RYR pilots wish... No, you need that all other airlines go bankrupt.
There is one who told me that:
"In this manner, all of you would have to go ask O´leary, the big pimp, for a job.
Only then you would know the pleasure of working for him. Really. If you just knew how it feels. He is so, so "macho"...! He knows when you deserve a punishment. Ah, and the fear he puts on you... Not even the fear you experience in the Cassino can match that. It is so addictive! You are going to love it, I promise.
Join us!
join us....
join us....
join us...."

then I started running as I realised she had all her clothes ragged and was walking towards me with her arms extended. And other fellows appeared in the same fashion.
"Join us...
join us...
join us..."

Ah, no. This was a nightmare, only.
But it can become true, sadly.

My contribution to cost cutting:

"PEE BEFORE GETTING INSIDE THE AIRPLANE. GET RID OF ALL THAT EXTRA WEIGHT"

FlyingOfficerKite 7th Nov 2009 19:48

I'm surprised that MOL hasn't followed the example set by the military - that is assign 'secondary duties'.

The pilot is employed in the 'general duties' department of the airline with a primary duty as 'pilot'.

Individual pilots could then be designated for additional duties (excluding Union Rep of course!).

This would ensure maximum use of resources whilst achieving minimum cost.

I don't know of any specific examples but these may include:

1. Photographer for Ryanair Calendar;
2. Interviewing suitable candidates for said Calendar (male pilots only);
3. MOL car washer (whilst on airport standby only);
4. MOL valet (whilst on airport standby only);
5. Actually the list is endless ...

FOK

dannyalliga 7th Nov 2009 20:36

LOADSHEETS:

why does the company have to spend thousands of $ in printing those loadsheets when the crews are fully trained not only to check, fill and sign but also to draw them!

Have the crews take a few A4 papers from home and make them fill in those loadsheets with their own pens in 2 copies.

The first 2 copies will be prepared by the F/O up to the payload at home after he's found out the APS weight for his aircraft by calling ops with his own phone, the following copies can be comfortably done in the cruise during flights.

If the IAA has anything to object then the airline could do a one day training on "fast loadsheet preparation" in order to bring the crews up to speed with their drawing techniques , of course at the pilots' expense.


Would be better if some other airlines like BA implemented some of the above ideas?
then they might stop posting loses of millions and millions!!!!!!!!!http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gifThen at least this time next year their pilots will have a job!
IRISHPILOT1990,
why would you care about BA and other loss making airlines?????
Our shareholders and cost cutting are the only things we should be concerned about!!
When other airlines go bust and fellow pilots lose thir jobs we should celebrate!!!We wish every competitor bad luck by painting our aircraft with explicit sentences afterall...

Talking about painting aircraft....BRK pilots should be called in with their own paint to do that job during their mandatory month off.
They are self employed professionals afterall!

essexboy 9th Nov 2009 08:27

When vis is good draw a magenta line up the windscreen and turn off all electrics.

MPH 9th Nov 2009 13:05

What a daft amount of comments! I bet half of the posting are done by no-Ryanair pilots and the other half probably, would not be accepted in the company. What is this...evey company looks for costing cutting measures. Some are unreasnable and others are just not plane feasable. The fact of the matter is that for one reason or another this company, seems to be making money. Charging low fares and obvously keeping the costs down!! Or how else do you think they are able to attract 62m pax every year. Certainly not for good service! But yes, offering lower fares, getting off on time and flying to places where others don't want to fly too. The Fr format is working but, obvously with a strong oposition from others in the industry!

Flintstone 9th Nov 2009 16:32

http://forum.chip.co.id/images/smili...ra/fishing.gif


Well done folks, you got one.

Ten West 9th Nov 2009 17:00

You going to weigh him and pop him in the keep net along with Slim Shandy then Flinters? :E

Flintstone 9th Nov 2009 17:44

That'd be poaching, not my catch. ;)

StressFree 9th Nov 2009 18:10

Ha ha ha, this is great humour BUT it has a horrible likeness to the guests on the Titanic cracking jokes about icebergs.....:eek:

MPH, you must be the chap who polishes and re-arranges the deck-chairs on the aforementioned Titanic, hope you're happy in your work, its got a great future :E

fireflybob 9th Nov 2009 18:34

Passenger window blinds to be closed and can only be opened after inserting one euro!

The Real Slim Shady 9th Nov 2009 21:40

Strange you should come up with all these great revenue enhancers when we are actively looking for means of increasing the ancillary revenue and saving on operating costs.

One of the issues under consideration is charging the equivalent of "corkage" on the food and drink you bring on board as we have to pay to have it removed: think of it as your contribution to the environment rather than a charge.

The other one we are critically examining is the introduction of a "green charge": it has nothing to do with the environment of course, but since you lot love to whine about "hidden charges", we thought that a charge for flying Irish as a "green charge" would give you endless hours of entertainment. Aer Lingus may also introduce this charge.

Our efforts also extend to reducing the costs at arports: we are now carrying metal trays to asssit in in the speedy disembarkation of passengers of reduced mobility as the lift off can often be time consuming and traumatic, not say expensive.

dannyalliga 10th Nov 2009 05:16

Why have management people tour all our bases like lately just to discuss the implementation of something which is already in the current agreements like pay and T&C freezes?
These trips cost money and are absolutely pointless because the company would implement the pay freezes in any case.

These managers should stay home and save the company money while the pay freezes go ahead by themselves with no need to explain anything.

Ten West 10th Nov 2009 09:16


One of the issues under consideration is charging the equivalent of "corkage" on the food and drink you bring on board as we have to pay to have it removed: think of it as your contribution to the environment rather than a charge.
Doesn't worry me one iota. I will never, under any circumstances, travel with Ryanair and neither will anyone I know. Even if I didn't get staff rates with my airline I'd rather pay the extra and go with a proper carrier thanks all the same.

I'm firmly of the opinion that their cumulative dodgy practices will end in tears and/or twisted metal one day, and I don't want to be involved in it when it does.

postman23 10th Nov 2009 17:15


One of the issues under consideration is charging the equivalent of "corkage" on the food and drink you bring on board as we have to pay to have it removed: think of it as your contribution to the environment rather than a charge.
By that logic, the aforementioned skanky outfit would have to pay medical fees to its passengers upon arrival to cover psychological treatment. :eek:
I know, I know people board MOL's airline on a voluntary basis, still haven't figured out why though :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.


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