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Did some digging on their website.
So even if you are type rated and have experience on the 737 or 757 (types they operate) you still have to sign a training bond with them - WHAT THE :mad:! Outrageous. |
The salary is £41,064 which is effective after probation. The probationary salary (from day after licence endorsement) is £35,700 and the full salary is implemented two months after the successful completion of line training.
Seems pretty good to me |
Being bonded for training costs even when joining type rated is acceptable even though this is usually 6 months.
With regards to the salary mentioned above, this is for non experienced type rated guys as it also mentioned base training provided. So surely when joining type rated with a significant amount of hours one can expect to start with a SFO salary?? |
I'm glad there is recruitment and even more so that its my own airline.
However, last I had heard, there was still quite a few in the hold pool? Don't be surprised if the contract is an 80% one. If your going to apply, BALPA members only please!!!!!! (BALPA are going through proceedings for recognition at Jet2) There is a large fleet transfer list and it would have been nice to see a move up for some of the F/O's. Although I fully understand the cost savings by employing type rated pilots. Lets hope then, we can get some good 737 / 757 rated guys. Charter & longhaul background would be good from my point of view, especially with the routes we do now and the ones that are rumored for the future. Any news on the Chief Pilot role or has the company finally realised how hard it will be to replace the fantastic one we had!!!!! |
Posted by Squawkident
The salary is £41,064 which is effective after probation. The probationary salary (from day after licence endorsement) is £35,700 and the full salary is implemented two months after the successful completion of line training. Seems pretty good to me This is for first officers!! Captains rates below The salary is £66,024 which is effective after probation. The
probationary salary is £60,180, and the full salary is implemented two months after the successful completion of line training. |
Surely in the current economy most would be glad to stay with the same airline for 3 or more years... Although not usual, can't see how the bond would bother people, really. :suspect:
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If your going to apply, BALPA members only please!!!!!! (BALPA are going through proceedings for recognition at Jet2) The act which can be read in full here specifically states in the very first article of said chapter: Access to employment 1 Refusal of employment on grounds related to union membership .(1) It is unlawful to refuse a person employment— . (a) because he is, or is not, a member of a trade union, or . (b) because he is unwilling to accept a requirement— . (i) to take steps to become or cease to be, or to remain or not to become, a member of a trade union, or . (ii) to make payments or suffer deductions in the event of his not being a member of a trade union. . (2) A person who is thus unlawfully refused employment has a right of complaint to an industrial tribunal. . (3) Where an advertisement is published which indicates, or might reasonably be understood as indicating— . (a) that employment to which the advertisement relates is open only to a person who is, or is not, a member of a trade union, or . (b) that any such requirement as is mentioned in subsection (1)(b) will be imposed in relation to employment to which the advertisement relates, . a person who does not satisfy that condition or, as the case may be, is unwilling to accept that requirement, and who seeks and is refused employment to which the advertisement relates, shall be conclusively presumed to have been refused employment for that reason. |
Can anybody give an indication how much one could expect to receive in duty pay and sector pay in a typical summer month? It's difficult to estimate what a type-rated captain could come out with after tax. Any figures would be much appreciated.
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i cant see what the problem is with the 6k bond, its to cover OCC costs, the pilot is NOT asked to pay this up front and it only lasts for one year.
simples! |
A bond usually is required if, the company has paid for the training? If type rated it should be free of charge!:=
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Personally, I thinks it's great that in this economic downturn that an airline is in a position to recruit. If I were out of a job right now I would jump at the chance to get my income back and pay the bills etc...
The bond is neither here nor there, I know it may seem OTT if you are already type rated, but really it only comes into play if you leave within the year which is not likely to happen is it! If you don't like the sound of the job on offer then don't apply. If you can be that picky then you obviously don't need the job that much, so stay away and give someone who needs/want's the job a chance. Good luck to those who do apply. |
MPH read again......it IS free of charge! but should you leave within one year you will be charged the proportion left of 6k that covers the cost of the OCC (operator conversion course). Not unreasonable.
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I think what the other posters are getting at is why the hell should you be bonded for company related training?
What other jobs are there out there that do that? You join a company with a licence and a type rating and years of experience, if they want you to work for them then should be happy to invest a small amount in a little bit of training that THEY require you to have. What other industry does this??????:* |
I joined one of the largest UK charter in 2005 type rated and signed for a £2400 bond over a 6 month period to cover the company conversion training...no big deal!
6K over 12 months is slithly more but provided that you sign the contract with the intention to stay then what is the issue here? :confused: Especially in these times where more and more pilots are looking for any temporary flying job just to keep filling their logbooks and paying their bills who will then move on when something better comes along it is completely acceptable to show some sort of commitment by signing this bond. End of this discussion if you ask me...time to focus on what really matters as T & C, future outlook of Jet2.com etc! |
Guys,
Jet2 is low-cost in every sense of the word! I think what the other posters are getting at is why the hell should you be bonded for company related training? So surely when joining type rated with a significant amount of hours one can expect to start with a SFO salary?? The company is, in my eyes, a good place to work. Yes it's not great, but where is nowerdays? It is one of the VERY few airlines set to employ next year, although it looks likely to be on a Summer basis only. Yes, £35,700 is CR*P, but Jet2 offers a good training department, pretty stable rosters (disclaimer: pretty)and a great bunch of people to work with. Good luck to all, won't suit all, but certainly a good start airline, as I'm sure Jet2 will find out when other Airlines start employing and many leave us!!! |
CAT1 reversion,
Do you actually know any pilot who joined type rated with significant hours on type? Perhaps this is the first time they will take on experienced guys and the higher SFO pay will come into play from the start? Being a 2 striper for 2 years when joining with no experience is acceptable just as other airlines require you to unfreeze your license to upgrade to 3 stripes. However, when joining with SFO experience it is being taken for a ride really, nothing to do with ego but with wanting to get paid for what you are worth as a SFO... |
I think at Jet2 to become a SFO is considered "a loyalty" payment after two years, due to the expansion over the past few years and lets hope the future, SFO have been getting commands fairly quickly after gaining the required experience.
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highflyer,
Do you actually know any pilot who joined type rated with significant hours on type? If you come with type and hrs you will go onto full jet pay, but after 2 Months probabtion. This pay is the same as SFO salary (or very close!), you just don't get the vanity stripe! Many of our guys have gone from 2 stripe to 4, so really there isn't an issue. Join, keep yer heed down, work hard and you never know, a command could come!!!! Good Luck to all:ok: |
What the position for someone with lots of jet hours, type rated on 737 with 1000 hours on type but 737 not flown for more than 5 years? Still current on another jet and looking for FO position.
Ta |
CAT1 reversion,
Thanks for the info, I personally don't care as much about the stripes but more about how much money hits the bank and that it is in line with ones experience, would you mind sharing with us the starting SFO annual gross pay? What is the estimated time to upgrade at this moment? Cheers |
I wouldn't like to comment on salarys'. Other posts are suggesting a lower salary than permanent staff. Who knows, I'm sure it won't be great though as it's an employers market at the moment!!!!
There are lots of differnet contracts ie increments etc, so most FO's/SFO's are on different wages, but somewhere near £40k. As for time to command, I would suggest that is upto the individual and their abilities. Have seen guys come in after 2 years up-grade, so the scope isd there! Good Luck:ok: |
Does anybody know when interviews are likely to start, and what the likely start dates are?
Regards |
They are also talking about DEC - are there no F/Os awaiting promotion with sufficient hours and command assessment passed? Are DECs likely to end up flying with F/Os who have massive chips on their shoulders because they think they should be in the left hand seat? I am only interested in the 737 fleet, by the way.
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For those applying to Jet2 here's some info from personal experience:
The money has basically already been outlined on this thread. In my opinion the FO salary is OK as a starting point and the Captain salary is low. The problem is that the starting salary is also the full salary ie. no payscales anymore. The payscales stoppped around 3 or 4 years ago. Pay is reviewed annualy but rises have not been forthcoming, perhaps unsurprisingly so with the economy and all. I wouldn't have hopes of a significant pay rise for SFO either. This is all of course based on full time employment. There has been a recent HR drive to get as many as possible to accept part time. Part time would mean full time in summer and part time in winter or the winter off alltogether, with commensurate reduction in salary - great if it suits and you can afford it. Jet2 did say at the time that all future recruitment would be for part time contracts only. As far as promotions are concerned, Jet2 does apparently have a promotion from within policy, although Direct Entry Captains are also sought (read into that what you will). The most recent promotions were for summer commands. FO/SFOs undergo command assessment and if successful (quite high rate of success I think) may be offered a summer command with reversion to FO/SFO in winter. In some cases it involves a temporary base change aswell, at the pilot's expense. I believe some of those that acheived a summer command this last summer may retain their commands, although it is unclear whether they had to accept taking the winter off in order to do so. As far as basing is concerned, there are expansion plans mostly for NCL, EMA and MAN. I think its mostly 757 but MAN may also be for 737, so its a good bet recruitment is for any of those bases. Don't be surprised however if you have to accept dual basing. Yes that's right, being based in 2 places and being rostered to operate from either from one day to the next. At present this only exists for MAN and BLK. You would have a main base and an alternate base and Jet2 gives you an allowance for travel to your alternate base. Still it can make for a lot of time on the motorways in your own car. As far as fleet/base transfers are concerned, there are extensive lists for both, especially for 737 to 757. Those at the top of the list get first consideration. That said, transfers are of course subject to commercial need. Fleet transfers are particularly rare as they involve expense and Jet2 is low cost. Generally though, Jet2 is successful, profitable and growing which is pretty rare these days, and its a friendly place to work. Hope the info helps and good luck. |
Thanks for the info Crosswind - seems like a pretty reasonable assessment. Nice to have a clearer picture at the outset. I'll launch my form off and hope it lands on the right desk!
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Can anyone confirm if this is for a full time or part time contract?
Cheers |
As far as I understand, all contracts are part time. (80%)
Anyone know when interviews are likely to start? |
As far as I understand, all contracts are part time. (80%) Anyone know when interviews are likely to start? No mention at the interview arragement on what the contract will be for....guess that will be done at interview! Anyone any info on the Jet2 interview...questions, tech question for example? Not much found after a search here...just a lot of Cabin Crew stuff. |
Also called for interview about 2 days after submitting the application....not sure if i'm going to go though if its only for an 80% contract, it should have stated that in the advertisement. :rolleyes:
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Oh cock, applied 10 days ago. Absolutely zilch and type rated too. Another one bites the dust.
80% is a lot better than 0%. |
Anyone had their interviews yet? Or any results?
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The guys that have been asked for an interview, would you mind divulging how many hours you have?
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I've been called for interview with Jet2 for an FO position on the 737.
I have 3000tt with 2500 on type. |
To be honest i wouldnt waste your money, i have far more than 500 hrs on type and i have not got an interview.
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where does a 19 year old get the funds for line training at eagle jet?
i think you will need alot more than 500 hours 737 with some eagle jet oufit.i think alot of the excel people still dont have jobs,they have alot more than 500 hrs on type:cool: |
I think right now it's pretty rubbish being unemployed no matter what experience you have. There are simply not that many jobs around.:confused:
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I thought they said they will only contact successful candidates?
Is no news good news then?:cool: |
I know of a few who have secured an interview with 4 -500 hrs on type so they are obviuosly looking for a broad range of applicants. :)
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