Information about Aegean Airways
I have an interview for Aegean Airways in Athens next month as F/O. Would appreciate any details from an insider. Checking ppjn, the salary seems to be very low (25.000,- Euros gross/year), is this correct?
What is the monthly salary after tax? Any details about roster, off days, working environment,ID-tickets? Any nightstops out of Athens? Is it a good company? Appreciate any help:ok: NIK_ |
I dont work there, but have a mate working there... He confirmed the pay, and yeah it is low... As for the roster ect the lads working there will be of more help.
Word from the inside is its a good company to work for and morale isnt bad! |
Aegean have been racking up awards the last few years. They are rapidly expanding throughout Europe, and are known in southern europe for their young fleet. Credit Crunch has only caused 4% loss in revenue this year due to fuel costs.
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Aegean Airlines has been confirmed today as future Star Alliance member :ok:
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Which aircraft would you be hired onto? Do they hire onto the A320, or is it the 737 or Avro? Cheers.
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Hi,
thanks for your replys. The interview is for the A320 fleet ´cause I am rated on that type. Regards NIK;) |
From what iam told, they are retiring the 737 fleet anyway, going all BUS, so its gotta be the A320!
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NIK,
aegean is hiring right now and all new company pilots are gonna type rated on A320..if u already have a 320 rating,you'll maybe not have problems but one of hiring requirements is to speak greek fluently..just consider that before processing despite the fact that many foreign captains and F/Os(German and British) flying for Aegean.. hope you the best cheers |
Hello,
@Tolisshow, I know that you have to speak fluent greek, but I am greek and I think it should be no issue. I ´m more interested to know if the company provides you with any accomodation at the beginning and what it is the average salaray for an FO with 60 or 70 hours a minth? Greetings NIK_ |
As far as the salary is conserned,K2's are paid approx 3500 with bonus,extra flights rewards included and K1s 5000-6000 according to the years..obviously,the salaries are quite poor but aegean's guys hire "fresh" pilots (22-30 yrs) who maybe have just finished fatpl and train them to fly brand new a/cs(a320,a321)..not so bad
kali epitixia cheers |
As far as the salary is conserned,K2's are paid approx 3500 with bonus My best friend is an FO with A3 (aegean). After 3.5 years his net salary is approximately 2,400 with 75-85 hours per month. No bonus no rewards exist! The company recently gave a raise of 300euros gross to all FOs (K2). |
In fact,aegean hasn't been affected from the crisis yet..maybe this happen,maybe not..but hire people all the time(from cabin attendants,pilots etc to counters and offices employers) and joined the star alliance 2 weeks ago..so far so good
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Does anyone know if they would apply for a work Visa if you attended interview with non EU passport, but JAR Licence?
Thanks |
Yet nobody has mentioned the most important requirement: Fluent Greek. Least this is what I was told.
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I think most of us who have interviews on the 22nd speak fluent Greek. :D
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Starting salary is 1700 for First officers, a first year captain doesnt even make 3500 euros.
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Pay is crap like most airlines these days.
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I have been invited for the selections as well on 22 June '09.
The latest information I have heard about salary is 1800€/month after tax. There is no extra or bonus applied to this amount of money. After one year of F/O, it goes to 1900€ etc... From another source I heard F/O's with Aegean Airlines would get an increase in lone to 2300€/month year, since they raise the hours per month. Whether this is true or not, I don't know. But I would actually like to have an exact amount (and true amount) of money the F/O's earn today with Aegean. Anybody? Greetings |
who is paying well and hiring this days? at an acceptable location to live...
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Stay away! Ask any Greek friend you might have!! It is not only the money but the working enviromnent which are crap!!
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everywhere on the internet you can reed things about Aegean Airlines that the payscale is too low, that the environment is not good at all!
But you are flying an European company that runs good...Every Airlines has it's pro's and con's...of course one of those for Aegean is the salary. But if I understand well, you get around 1800€ net the first year as an F/O. The TR is payed by the company...so that's already an amount of money you can keep for yourself. This isn't that bad for a life in Greece, no? Especially for someone who already lives in greece... Although very interested in working for Aegean, I live abroad and will have to find accommodation in Greece. What do pilots of Aegean think, will I make it with a salary like that? Greetings |
How many of you are going to the interview on Monday the 22nd?
Does anyone know how many pilots they are looking for? Cheers |
of course,dont know the exact number but there is lack of pilots in the airline..i.e. airline has 27 planes ready to fly and has pilots for 24 of them..dont forget though that olympic was privatised 2 months ago and many aegean's FOs and captains applied to olympic due to higher salary and better environment..most of them were hired
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is it only for A320 pilots? because I've heard there are short of AVRO F/O's as well...
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If you work for aegean do you have to live in athens? or can you commute from whatever other city in europe you may be? and does anyone have any idea on what the rostering is like? days on and off?
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Bases: ATH,SKG,HER
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for the rostering there is a standard 10-12 days off every month but there is a flexibility on that.you might have also stbys too the number depends on the time of the season.there is not a standard 5days on 4days off.depends always how the rostering team is cooking it!!!:ugh: :oh:
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Does anyone know how aegean is with night stops? as in, is it a company like ryanair or ezy where you have there and backs and always end up back at base end of the day, or do they night stop all over europe giving you 2,3,4,5 day trips at a time etc?
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What's the latest with hiring at Aegean? I got a Greek mate with A320 time and he is looking to return home... Could be a good match if they are hiring. Are the Cyprus guys also getting preference? Yes, I've read about the poor pay rates...
PMs also welcome. |
Only contract pilots through an agency on 6 month contracts.
Not sure through which agents though. |
I dont think they are hiring from a contract company. However your 100% correct that its contract (6 month) work. Olympic Air laid of alot of A320 rated pilots with several hours so Aegean is taking some of them on for the summer season. I think the number is around 12-18 F/O's. However after the summer there should be some long term hiring plans. They are generally low on pilots. LOTS of greeks leaving for the sandpit, and it doesnt seem to stop. :ok:
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Aegean Airlines will operate 3 planes out of Larnaca on direct flights to LHR JMK, JSI, HER and many more.
The FO's will be Cypriots who were based in Athens. The Captains will be ex Eurocypria "clever" Crews who got the job through the back door. :ugh: |
hey everyone, i was wondering what the entry levels are for hours etc. would anyone have more info?
thank you :ok: |
Working Conditions
For those of you interested in working for Aegean Airlines. I cannot comment on Captain contracts because those are on a person to person basis. For someone as an FO:
-monthly pay of 2100 Euro a month all in after tax. -approximate flying hours per month 85-100 (no overtime) -9 days off a month (5-6 on and 2 off) -duty hours for the month 150hrs+ (expect Dead Heading almost everyday) -Over nights 1-5 per month (30 Euro National, 60 Euro Outside Greece) Taxed 40% -Expect to be layed off at the end of the contract (no compensation) -Early and Lates in the same week -Schedule is changed often (an early can be switched to a late the night before and vice versa) -A few standby per month (in Greece standby do not count as Duty) This is a general view, I am not being harsh nor easy on the company policy. I hope this gives some of you a view of the working conditions and can compare it to your current employer. If you have questions private message me. Good Luck to everyone. :ok: |
That's ridiculous.
A320 FO's @ my employer make close to 200 Euro a year, if not more with some bonus. Anyone working for such low pay, should be shot for lowering the industry standard. When I flew turboprops as a FO 15 years ago I made more than 1800 E. My Perdeim for overnights is 1/2 that alone, without any salary. :confused: Stop working for peanuts. |
Yeah terms at Aegean may be Cr@p.. However do not forget that they often hire low time pilots, and fund the rating... Cant have everything can we??!! Greece does not have an active union for pilots, this is why T's and C's are so bad in Greece.
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Is this what it has come to?
People are supposed to be grateful that the employer pays peanuts rather than asking them to pay for the TR? IT IS A JOB. THE TR IS REQUIRED TO FLY THEIR AIRCRAFT SO THEY CAN DO BUSINESS!!! Is there a never ending supply of people willing to pay to go to work! :ugh::ugh::ugh::{:{:{ |
PROPHEAD, no one above said they are willing to pay for a type rating. 2200 in Greece, as a first job is NOT a bad salary at all... The conditions are crap.. yes they are. However, even back in the day, when airlines had sponsored schemes, most of them would still hold cash from your salary for the cost of training. You just didnt notice back then.
Aegean is a great airline for a young F/O to work for (if your Greek). You fly alot, you get your type rating paid for, you have a mix of flying to large international airports and to tricky island airports in Greece as well. Now if someone is so interested in terms and conditions then aegean is not the place to go... but yet again, neighter is any airline is Europe :E |
If anyone could indicate me ANY European carrier who hires low-hour people almost every year with TP paid and with relatively good rostering and salary, i would really appreciate a PM! :)You know what, forget the "European", just name any carrier worldwide.
Its the easiest thing to be an experienced pilot and criticizing T&C of other airliners. Being outside the club you accept anything they offer you until you are powerful enough to make your choices. And AEGEAN certainly is not just anything. |
i understand they hire low houred pilots, however, would anyone know how long youre binded to the contract for?
i heard they used to have contracts for six months, but that was ages ago. i dont really mind about the pay, just want the experience and i hear you fly often also, even though the coditions sound pretty ordinary... :bored: |
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