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kentuckyfriedchicken 13th May 2009 18:54

Easyjet Switzerland???
 
I am wondering about what a typical life is like at EJ switzerland.
Block hours a month, days off per month, upgrade time (approx. time line, I know it is quite difficult to say with this economic downturn). Is the company still making money or is it having trouble? etc......

Any and all information would be appreciated.

Extra Crispy Chicken

dbdb 25th May 2009 15:17

Just a bit of info for you. Block time currently 70-80ish hrs a month. Rostering, well they have just implemented a new 'agreement' which means you can be scheduled for 2 blocks of 2 days off per month, a maximum of 18 of these two day blocks can be allocated in any year. For example a 5-2-4-2-5 is possible. A guaranteed block of 4 consecutive days will be granted in every month. A fixed rosta similar to the UK would obviously be welcomed , as it stands you are informed of your monthly duties on the 20th day of the preceding month. It makes planning rather difficult!

Upgrading time..another contentious issue. They have just implemented a change in upgrade policy from FO to SFO from 1500 hrs (still the case in the UK) to 3000 factored hrs in Switzerland. Meaning a two year or more delay in many cases to some pilots just short of 1500 hrs. These changes were all implemented by management disregarding the current terms and conditions, and despite obvious opposition from the Pilots.

On a plus side your are paid in Swiss Francs, which at the moment is very strong against the UK pound, how long that will last is anyones guess.

LSGG 25th May 2009 19:39

Concerning the upgrade from FO to SFO isn-t there also a new rule stating that you must have 1000 + hours experience on the Airbus ?
Which would mean that even with 5000 hours experience and no A319 family type rating, you-re an JFO as a new joiner for +- 2 years anyways....

Fab66 26th May 2009 08:52

Hi LSGG,

That is correct! A minimum of 1000 hours on Airbus 320 series before you upgrade to SFO.

Jet_A_Knight 29th May 2009 11:00

Is there a Geneva base?

Also, is recruitment done through the main easyjet website?

Fab66 29th May 2009 11:45

Yes, GVA is a base as well as BSL, they are our Swiss base.
For the recruitment, you shall use easyJet website, they should re-open the application access to allow pilots to apply for Switzerland again.

Cheers

Fab

Jet_A_Knight 30th May 2009 09:08

Thanks Fab.:ok:

gus320 13th Jul 2009 16:40

Info on EZY Swisse
 
Hi there,:)

went through the selection process last August 2008.
Holding number 72 but informed that my staying in the holding will now have an expiry date (2 years).
Contacted by EZY for a proposal, in EZY Swisse, due over the next 6 months, but no info so far regarding duration and type of contract.

I didn't understand in your expose, if the 4 days off are guaranteed each month. May a see a typical monthly roster?

And where may I have info on EZY Swisse contract, as on the web site there are no info concerning wages and all that stuff.

Is it also true that once based in Switzerland we can always apply for relocation in all the others EZY bases? If yes, within how long since hired?
Thanks a lot to everyone.

Gus320:ok:

epsilonmiuraised 2nd Aug 2009 08:26

Anyone has any idea about how many f/o will easy swiss need in the next few months (if any) and who and when they will call?

NIK_ 2nd Aug 2009 12:35

Easy Swiss salary
 
Hello,

would appreciate if any insider could provide me with the monthly salary as SFO and FO when joining Easy Swiss, 'cause they have asked me a few weeks ago if I am still interested to move to Swiss and I said yes.
With my experience on A320 family (over 2200hrs) can I expect to work as SFO or FO?

Thank you in advance:ok:

NIK_

Lagoon100 13th Aug 2009 05:44

Hi, can someone how went to an easy selection lately give us an update on what to expect there?

Would be great, many thx

regards
Lagoon

misterzull 15th Jul 2010 13:10

Hi
I've got an offer from easyJet Switzerland, how is the contract there and which is the difference between the 2 companies? How much is the salary for an SFO?

TNX
:oh:

gus320 15th Jul 2010 15:36

Are u Italian?

Craggenmore 31st Jul 2010 22:20


Is it also true that once based in Switzerland we can always apply for relocation in all the others EZY bases? If yes, within how long since hired?
Thanks a lot to everyone.
If you are thinking of easily moving to EZY UK after joining EZS then think again.

EZS and EZY UK are different companies.

If you decide to leave EZS, then you will have to undergo full EZY UK selection (when they are recruiting again in the future.)

However, I used to work for EZS (BSL and GVA) and really enjoyed my time there.

PPRuNeUser0178 1st Aug 2010 10:51

Sorry, but procedures have not changed.

I personally know a skipper who is top of a transfer list out of a swiss base and into a UK base.

He has been bypassed twice in the past 3 months - reason given? No right of transfer from EZYswiss to EZYUK, as they are different companies and different AOC's he would be classed as a DEC. They are allowed to log there names as an expression of interest only on our waiting lists. EZYswiss comes to EZY UK when they need FO's and we have a supply for them, for a UK skipper to join EZY swiss he would have to join in the RHS and try to get upgraded over there.

All this may change if waiting lists were empty and we had a shortage of pilots - not about to happen anytime soon with a bursting CPI list and constant supply of cadets to fill the RHS I'm afraid.

PPRuNeUser0178 2nd Aug 2010 12:13

They have a requirement for FO's in EZY swiss.

They say you can transfer no problem as they have a requirement.

When they no longer have a requirement and you want to transfer, guess what, procedures will have changed............

Procedures have not changed, procedures are to make the rules fit what they want when they want, to trust them on anything else is risky.

If you go to swiss as an FO, fine, but you better be sure about where you want to be a skipper and where you want to enter the upgrade process as that is not transferable and never will be as long as the seperate AOC and unions exist.

Have you ever looked up the waiting lists for BSL or GVA on the intranet? They are not there.

PPRuNeUser0178 2nd Aug 2010 19:50

That was meant to be a friendly warning from someone who I can assure you is very much in the know and very closely placed to this subject both now and in the past.

By your own admission " Captains may be a different case". I assume one day you may grow up and want to become a Captain. In the past commands have been available in Topswizz to UK SFOs being upgraded as dictated by the needs at the time. If this were to happen now ther would by an outcry from the swiss union and swiss FOs all waiting for upgrades.

The link between UKEZY and SWISSEZY is like a drawbridge that the company can pull up and down as and when they please as there is no formal industrial agreements on anything as they are two seperate entities that can help each other out from their own resources when it suits them.

I have actually seen the swiss offers and have read much documentation on them and there is an emphaisis on haveing a desire/interest in working in Switzerland if you choose to go there - I cannot help you read between the lines much more than that if you cannot see it for yourself, all the precedents on this were set long ago.

Bottom line no industrial agreements between topswiss and EZY, means they can do what they like, as long as you understand that, enjoy the move.

PS might want to ask yourself why EZY hasn't mentioned any of this to you but a colleague who "knows nothing" with no invested interest in wether you move to Switzerland or not has. Carry on biting the hand that really feeds you, it will serve you well.

Thad Jarvis 2nd Aug 2010 22:55

from what I hear, ezydriver is correct. The EPG has elected to halt any transfer from Swiss to UK for command as it isn't a 2 way street and until it becomes so then the various unions will resist any further transfer. Not totally sure about rhs to rhs but transfer for promotion is definately canned.

The flying bob 5th Aug 2010 20:25

Can anyone here answer the question : How much is the starting salary for an FO?
As you need to pay for the TR, I wondered how much an FO get the first year.

El Sche 6th Aug 2010 05:52


Can anyone here answer the question : How much is the starting salary for an FO?
As you need to pay for the TR, I wondered how much an FO get the first year.
To answer your question, here are the figures:

FO (1st 6 months of employment) : 63996.- CHF
FO (afterwards) : 79848.- CHF
SFO (1st 3 months of employment) : 78312.- CHF
SFO (Afterwards) : 97740.- CHF

Hope this will help!

The flying bob 7th Aug 2010 16:07

Thanks a lot for that, it's very helpfull. Seems very good

Nightstop 10th Aug 2010 15:40

Isn't easyJet Swiss a franchise operation that is due for renewal or expiry in a couple of years.....

The flying bob 18th Sep 2010 08:46

Hi guys,

I have been invited for some selection soon and wondered if someone here could give me some information about the day.. Especially the technical test, Multiple choice?open questions? How many questions? Which subjects...?

Thanks for that...
Bob

Bambe 18th Sep 2010 15:47

Hello,

I am taking the selection as well and I would love some info too... Any idea on what to expect??
Thanks in adance.

Vulka 18th Sep 2010 17:00

One question 4 Bambe and Bob
Which kind of experience u have and how u apply?

thank you

ATC83 19th Sep 2010 14:24

Bambe / Flying Bob - where did you apply for EZY Switzerland? Cant find it anywhere....or if anyone else could help out??.....

The flying bob 19th Sep 2010 18:06

Just been told they were recruiting then sent the package to their HQ in Geneva. Someone called me back about a week later to know more about me and my reasons for applying.
Anyone for some info????
Bob

flying passion 27th Dec 2010 07:57

Selection Easyjet Switzerland
 
Hi everybody,
I would like to know if someone have any info concerning the selection for Easyjet Switzerland. I know ther is a Technical test, group exercice and an interview but no idea what to expect.
If it's positif then there is a sim check. But I have no info neither...
I know there is a book to prepare for the easyjet UK selection. Do you thing it's a good idea to use it as well for the Switzerland selection?
Any info on what we can expect will be really appreciate.
Thanks in advance

nopoal 9th Jan 2011 05:36

Easyjet 2011
 
Hi there!!

As Easyjet has opening his door to new pilots, I would like to know few things that will help to decide to apply or not. Hope you can help me.

Here are the questions.

1. Typical roster

2. Salary net per month (I have seen that there are some numbers in a post before but I donīt know if is it gross or net). Taxes in Switzerland.

3. Average time for a command

4. Chances to move afterwards to another EZY base (CDG, MXP, LIS, MAD, ...)

5. Leave days per year

6. Work environment

7. Extra info to consider?

I think that is all for the moment. I hope you can help me.

Have all a great journey.

flaps 15% :cool:

nopoal

Rock&Go 9th Jan 2011 07:54

Hello everyone,

I'm also interested in the above info requested by nopoal and would very much appreciate if someone could share his/her knowledge on the matter.

Enjoy a happy Sunday!

TOGA 10 9th Jan 2011 12:56

To nopoal and rock&go:

typical montly roster: 1x4 consecutive days off, 1 or 2 x 2 consecutive days off, 1 or 2 x 3 consecutive days off. No single days off, around 3-4 standby days. One can expect to fly about 16-17 days a month.

The salary figures given by el Sche are before tax. Taxes in Switzerland vary a lot from the Canton and village you're living. In general one can say they are probably among the lowest in Europe. Also depend on your family status, double income, etc. I think you can be anywhere in a range of 10 to 25%.

Average time to command 3-4 years the last 5-6 years. In the future... who knows... depending on expansion.

Leave days per year: 5 weeks.

Change of base: why would you do that?

Moral: in GVA is not at the highest level. BSL is good.

alkor 9th Jan 2011 13:50

Has anyone managed to apply? Do you have to be type rated or not?

Anyone knows email for the recruitment?

Thanks.

Cheers,
a

Luftibus 9th Jan 2011 13:50

And do not forget the following deductions:

5.05% deduction for the official pension fund (AHV)
2.5-25% depending on age to raise your own pension fund (required by law!)
1% jobless insurance
and health insurance which you have to pay for your own beginning from CHF 180.- per person/month (remember, you and your wife is already two...)

P.S. fo a single person taxes might be around 20% (BSL) and 22% (GVA)
You can also calculate individually here: Tax calculator| Finance | homegate.ch

Bubair 9th Jan 2011 14:41

TOGA 10,
Thank you for your detailed figures about days off and leave.
May I ask you what is your final take home pay after all the taxes and compulsory deductions?
What would it be as Captain?

Thanks a lot for anyone's reply.
Bubair

Rock&Go 9th Jan 2011 22:09

TOGA 10 & Luftibus,

Many thanks for your answers gentelmen.

Last one, I have applied for assessment for the initial flexicrew contract, and after being successful on the application I am now waiting for the release of the next assessment dates. Do you guys know if it's incompatible, or not well regarded, to apply to both schemes?

Anticipated thanks for the replies.


:ok:

TOGA 10 11th Jan 2011 15:39

Hi Bubair,

montly take home for captains (salary + sector pay) is about 14000 chf. If you're a swiss citizen or resident you declare your income once a year and taxed according your personal situtation (place you live, marital status, children,...). If you live across the border or you are a temporary working permit holder you're taxed "ā la source", which means your tax is deducted from your salary automaticaly each month. I think it's around 20%. Senior first officer take home money is 8500 chf (less 20% if taxed ā la source).

Hi Rock&Go,

go for easy switzerland option if you can. I flew recently with few ex flexicrew guys. Didn't hear a lot of good things...

Good luck to all:ok:

VJW 11th Jan 2011 19:40

I had some problems with their site

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...atts/photo.jpg

I have 2000 hrs 737 so it seems I fulfil bullet point 2 and 3, yet I got this as a reply from them;

Please note that to apply for the role of First Officer for our Swiss base, it is a requirement to be type rated on the Airbus A320 and possess a minimum of 300 flying hours on type in the last 24 months.
If you are unable to meet this criteria then unfortunately, you do not meet the minimum requirement for the role and therefore you do not need to contact us again unless your situation changes and you are able to meet this criteria in the future.


I replied, stating that's not what their/your website says, and waiting for a reply to that!

Something isn't right, is it me?

VJW

Nubboy 11th Jan 2011 20:07

How about bullet point 1, Airbus 320 family type rating, and 300 hours on type in the last 24 months?

VJW 11th Jan 2011 20:13

What about it?

I don't comply with 1- seeing as though I'm 737 rated, however that still complies with 2 and 3 does it not? It says only ONE of the three need be met!

EasterlyWave 11th Jan 2011 21:54

@vjw

You are right the homepage says ONE of the reqs must be met.

I filled out the online app! At a certain point they ask if you are rated on airbus with more than 300 on type. I answered with no and the system kicked me out!?

I also meet two reqs except the airbus type.

It is sad so many companies hiring and almost everyone requires an airbus rating. Can someone tell me where all the bus rated people should come from. Looks like the airlines are not desperate in finding pilots? :(

Regards and happy landings


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