Monarch
 

Hi All,

I have read all about Monarch in T&D before anyone says!

Have interview with them this week, anyone know how it is?

Cheers

Yeah its basically a D1CKH34D test. No tricks etc, just be yourself.

I think its been already been said on the T&E Forum but you said you read that already..... oh wait you read the T&D thread :E

Good luck!:ok:

Ah yes! Doh!

Still suffering from jet lag!

Are you from Monarch yourself?

Yup i sure am

pm'd you with a few questions

HmmmgoodOJ
 

Hello,

May I ask you about your profile / experience ? (Jet ? ....)

Thank you:p

1200 turboprop
950 737
550 GA

Not a wannabe then.

You'll forever be one if you keep up with that attitude.

I asked for some advice on a job interview, so in other words I'm a wannabe of kinds.

Same old pprune huh, ask a question and have someone start a slanging match.

Tasty Orange Juice, chill man !

High Wing Drifter's comment was fair one. This site is specfically for wannabes and this post will no doubt be moved once a moderator notices it. This should be posted in T&E.

Was also a fair question asked as I was, rightly or wrongly, under the impression that Monarch weren't the typical sort of airline that takes wannabes on other than through cadet type programmes.

Anecdotally, I've heard off other pilots who know of other pilots who've been to the selecetion and sim and have left me with the impression it's all very straight forward.

CG.

Hey OJ!
Well my eyebrows are now lightly singed.
Well I suspect you might be right, but that is another thing. As Mr Goose alludes, it kinds of clouds the issue for us if we get posts asking for info in here from guys with a gazillion 737 hours. It is difficult enough getting a feel for the current situation as it is.

does GA mean Go Around ? :ouch: :}

I flew F50 into London city for 4 years, not quite 550, but a few.

As easyrider says it's just purely a simple talk - all of about five minutes in my case many moons ago. There are no traps or tricks, they simply want to see you are not the green eyed, two headed monster. At the rate things are going you may have a job quiker than you think:hmm:

No sim ride, no selection as such, just a chat. Are you somebody one would want to spend hours in a flight deck with and then a week in a bar??

No sim ride
 

fmgc – you are indeed quite correct ! I realised later on that in fact the person who told me about Monarch, did indeed refer to the fact that the person in question (and I don't believe they had that many hours - if memory serves correct was leaving Easy for Monarch) had no sim ride ! As previous posts have indicated. A brief chat and handshake !!

Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read on pprune ;-)

So are guys leaving ezy for Monarch? Makes me wonder why? Not taking the p***, just wondering...what can Monarch offer that ezy can't? Any thoughts?

F-all squared......most Monarch F/O's would swap jobs with someone from Easy. More money, stable rosters decent number of days off per month at Easy vs crap money, crap pension, salary cap after 10 years and rosters that are a work of fiction as soon as they come out.

My record is 10 changes to a roster BEFORE the month it covered even started and I'm sure I'm not the worst affected. I'd say on average I get about 15 roster changes per month - that really pi$$es you off after a while. Monarch view any work day as a day they own you for 24 hours.

aircraft bigger than A319 and B737-700 and long haul flights :E

Swerving the thread a tad. Whats this i hear about the 330 on repair at MAN?? Serious damage after a rather firm landing?
Along with the 321's that came knackered from BMI, not much luck of late :ugh:

EGGW

Well if you call "serious damage" no damage at all to the naked engineer's eye then you are right. Number crunchers' precaution, that's all. Don't forget it was allowed to fly home.
Getting back to the topic, basically if you have been given an interview you are 90% there, or here I should say.
Monarch also offer much better Loss of Licence cover (2 x basic rather than 1.3 x basic), Private Health Insurance (none at easy) and much better sick pay (12 months rather than 4.5 at best at easy). If you join on the A320 (most likely) you will probably fly the A330 within 5 years. 6 B787s on order, first in 2010.
The current pay offer to the troops is 4.6% backdated to April and 10 days off in 28 within 16 months plus a couple of percent in flying pay. Proposed DC pension changes also beat easy's hands down (12.5% cf 9% from the co). And the pay offer hasn't been accepted yet.
Don't assume the pay bars are permanent, and 2 sector days are the norm in Monarch, not 4 or 5.
If you like a home life and you get the base you want you will very likely enjoy yourself.

Except at EZ you get the 9% on the DC scheme regardless whether you contribute or not. Mon at the moment, you put in 8% to get the max from the co of 8%. Yay so much better. Rushed approach that offer is just on paper and doesnt actually exist so its probably best to compare apples with apples and not whats been offered to us.

EZ has a much more stable roster. Home everyday just like Mon. More annual leave per year. 5 days off annual leave = 12 days off with the wrap around rostored days off. Correct me if i'm wrong. At Mon 7 days leave gets you 9 off with a rostered day off tagged onto beginning and end. whoppee... And take home is £700-800/month more at EZ.

And your wondering why we havn't voted positively on the latest 'offer'....... SHEESH :rolleyes:

In rgds the 330, it may be an 'accountant precaution' as you say, but its still costing the co £2million odd (to quote a LGW engineer) to replace the main gear. I dont really see how whether the damage is visable to the naked eye or not warrants how serious it is. Microscopic hairline fractures (ie metal fatigue) have brought down a/c in the past as an example. I'd call that serious and it wasn't visable - till a big gaping hole appeared.

The eventual mix of SH and LH is about the only attractive thing MON has to offer.

Which is all seniority based, and given the almost total collapse of the long-haul flying resume'/portfolio, then even that has lost a lot of attractiveness.

If you're serious about your DC pension you need 25% total going in, so whilst easy do give something for nothing on this, in practice the reality is that to have 25% going in will cost you 16% at easy, 12.5% at Monarch even if the offered level is not improved.

Yes you can pay zero and get 9% at easy - you will then retire on a pension of peanuts.

Monarch average annual hours over a career probably 600 if that, easy 850 so you'll work 30% less and might actually live to enjoy your retirement.

And by the way the pay ballot is no surprise to me.

And the gear's insured.

Really? show the guys that the bars are going, and yeah two sector days to LXR, Sharm, Banjul mayby?, how about a night dalaman followed by a 6 hour taxi ride..and then the expectation of doing something similar 19 hours later? only to get a phonecall just as you wakeup at 5pm asking you delay your report for 6 hours so you now start at 2am.
600hrs a year of that is not a fair comparison with the big orange.

That's what the pilot managers call us. Am I the only one that finds that patronising, to the point of being insulting?

No unwiseowl, your not the only one to feel that way, but then again I suppose we are in the frontline with our lovely cabin crew so I guess that equates to being troops leading the charge :E

Aaaah the troops, yes...

The gear is being replaced, $$$$$££££, plus loss of revenue, plus the spar repairs that are nearly to limits, mmmm would they have flwon back from whence they came had they known that! Not me or you i suspect :} That muppet FO should be sacked, the Captain is a good guy, not easy to take over on the FBW, with the red button at the best of times.

Anyhow, back to the thread :ok:

How you of all pilots can call anyone a muppet is breathtakingly arrogant.

Just as well you don't work for us any more. Good riddance.

EGGW

How to make yourself sound like a total ar$e in one short post.
Highly commendable. Well done.

Next time, maybe you could be in possession of a fact or two before you make comments as childish as that.

Sack the FO???? WTF?

What an arrogant post!

Poor guy will probably never see a command now because of his unfortunate error but thats not enough..... you want him sacked? Your a nice person.

"the naked engineer's eye" :eek:

Is this a new zero cost option from Monarch management - saving on uniforms now.
How long before the flightdeck have to start providing their own uniform?? Mmmmm Ryanair springs to mind.:uhoh:

PHI ???
 

Rushed Approach, you must be joking.... :D

Rushed Approach, please may I borrow those rose-tinted specs?

I totally agree! 600 hrs a year ? Not up in Manchester. Well I left Monarch for Easy and it was the best decision I ever made. I certainly don't mind four sector days especially with the crews I have the pleasure to work with and I could tell you what days off I have many months in advance. Plus the extra £500 to £700 a month extra keeps my spirits up.

I was based at LGW on the FBW fleet and loved every minute. Roster was stable, great crews and interesting routes. I worked on average 6 days a month in the winter and 12 in the summer all 2 sector days and very little positioning. Getting days off when I needed them was simple using their system, even for weekends and short time to command... not sure why I left!

Chug it's a very diffrerent company now I promise you! Good move.