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AAIGUY 5th Feb 2006 10:12

I just got an email from a buddy in KUL..They had a meeting with the CP.

Immediate downsize from 125 crews to 85 crews. Roughly 120 guys now. Possibly more next Friday.

Just finished my SIN app. Doing my Saudia one next..

AAI might have a bit of a suprise when they recall in May.......

captaink 5th Feb 2006 10:28

No suprises at all. Lots of donkeys with a licence available at any time.

doubleu-anker 5th Feb 2006 10:38

Quiet right, "pay oats and you get donkeys.

AAIGUY 5th Feb 2006 10:48


Originally Posted by doubleu-anker
Quiet right, "pay oats and you get donkeys.


How very nice..

I don't think my $9000 tax free dollars I take home this month is oats.

despegue 5th Feb 2006 10:56

doubleu-anker,

Donkeys?...

I presume, that you have no idea about who actually flies/flew for AAI/ Islandsflug on the various types.
Do you call ex-Sabena pilots Donkeys?
Do you call ex-Olympic pilots Donkeys?

the AAI contracts were among the best, if not THE best in the industry.

I've certainly seen more donkeys in the Emirates than I've seen in Iceland.

18-Wheeler 5th Feb 2006 10:56

Some of those figures are way out.
We have about 105 crews on the 747, they are letting 20 go to get down to 85.
That is what the Cheif Pilot said last Friday in KL.
That's about 60 people, not 'hundreds'.

despegue 5th Feb 2006 11:11

18-Wheeler,

don't forget the redundancies on the other fleets please.
AAI is NOT only B747...

18-Wheeler 5th Feb 2006 12:05


Originally Posted by despegue
18-Wheeler,
don't forget the redundancies on the other fleets please.
AAI is NOT only B747...


Too true, apologies.

So far I haven't got my marching orders .... fingers crossed!

AAIGUY 5th Feb 2006 13:05


Originally Posted by 18-Wheeler
Some of those figures are way out.
We have about 105 crews on the 747, they are letting 20 go to get down to 85.
That is what the Cheif Pilot said last Friday in KL.
That's about 60 people, not 'hundreds'.

2 weeks ago they let go of 8 Capts 1 FO and 8 FE
Last week another 18 - 3 of each
This week, Jerry told me it was 20 Capts, 21 FO, and 20 FE
So thats 100 so far on the B747 Classic.
B747-400 lost a bunch,
B737 is gone.......
More are coming.
The letter I received from the KUL Capt said there were 135 crew in MAY 05 and May 06 were to be 85. I wasn't there, I am only reporting the info.

doubleu-anker 5th Feb 2006 21:28

AAIGUY

9 grand a month take home? Not too shabby admittedly, for a F/O.

Now, from your salary, take away 9 grand for every month you are out of work (with all of 2 weeks notice) through no fault of your own. Then see if you are taking home $108,000 per year.

I hope you find work soon but there is no garantee you will.

Harrier46 5th Feb 2006 21:38

Does anybody actually know WHY there are redundancies? The question has been asked twice but no answer that I can see. Let's have the whole story please!!!

MaxBlow 5th Feb 2006 22:11

best contract in the industry ?
 
...quite right ! But only for a handfull guys in the cold land.:bored:

Left Wing 6th Feb 2006 03:53

pls run to India ASAP; 747-400, 777, 737NG, A320, 340 Capts needed.

AAIGUY 6th Feb 2006 07:42


Originally Posted by doubleu-anker
AAIGUY
9 grand a month take home? Not too shabby admittedly, for a F/O.
Now, from your salary, take away 9 grand for every month you are out of work (with all of 2 weeks notice) through no fault of your own. Then see if you are taking home $108,000 per year.
I hope you find work soon but there is no garantee you will.


True, but I had two phone calls and one interview today already.
It is 9K every month, but averaged in the high 7's or 8's.

This month believe it or not we are all getting a bonus from the stock offering which I have been unofficial told is the reason for this down turn. IE..To make the Q1 numbers look good.

VS1711 6th Feb 2006 12:28

Reason for AAI Layoffs
 
I would expect it's mainly due to the Hajj ending in the next week or so. AAI ramps up quite a lot to fly the Hajj (rarely quite enough, but that's another story) and now it's over they have more pilots than they have work.

It's a shame for those involved. Are they at least observing last-in/first out?

AAIGUY 7th Feb 2006 07:43

19 more of each today.

another 57 total.


Apparently this is the end of the bloodbath.

Jerry O Springer 7th Feb 2006 10:09

B'Jesus Joseph & Mary Lads! Its been a whoile oy know, but oym here to remind you aal dat its you oy'm tinkin of. You loovely laads dat's bin lining me paackets wit yer dollers trough d years. Tink of me bottom loine wit d reduced pilot numbers...:{ Oh T' be sure oy want you baak jus as sooon as modder of devine god allows! Catch yersel's on wit me my dears :{

doubleu-anker 7th Feb 2006 12:27

Ha

See, everything will be ok chaps. Jerry's back and on your side.

BTW Jerry, have you been helping those poor guy's find alternate employment? Of course you have.

AAIGUY 7th Feb 2006 12:29

Actually, Jerry is helping with other work.

In fact all of AAI from crewplanning up has been great during these unfortunate events. It sucks for sure, but we will get thru it.

Atlanta-Driver 8th Feb 2006 03:38

Why: Business is slow and getting slower. A need to streamline to show shareholders that AAI is a "Dynamic" company that reacts swiftly to changes and market conditions.

Though probably the most vocal, cockpit crews are not the only ones affected by these redundancies. Maintenance and operations are losing 40 to 60 people from each group.

B737 gone and B744 layoffs over for the time being the brunt will now be carried by the B757/B767 and B747 "Classic" pilots and flight engineers.

First layoff was what could be called "Spring cleaning" with 8 Captains 2 F/O's and 8 F/E's fired. By the looks of it these latest layoffs where based on date of hire and age.


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