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AAIGUY 2nd Jun 2005 17:01

AAI gets a raise!!!
 
Just got the email.
Immediatly (as of June 1) $50 a day perdiem and $5 a day contract increase, as well as 1.5% cost of living increase!!!

Rocco in Budapest 2nd Jun 2005 17:09

That should bring you well over the poverty line. Congrats!

Kapt. Ive 2nd Jun 2005 20:34

Good on ya mate! It's more than our (Dragonair) blokes on the freighter fleet got!!!

maverick1980 2nd Jun 2005 21:54

is the per diem of 50 USD only gonna be paid on layover or for each work day at base.

what about overtime any increase to that or is it still 70 USD for FO/FE and 100 USD for Captains.


mav

AAIGUY 3rd Jun 2005 01:17

There is a raise to overtime time too.
Whatever your day rate ie..200 x 30 days a month divided by 75.
Is now $80 an hr where it used to be $70.
For me it equates to about $9000 USD more a year.

MaxBlow 3rd Jun 2005 17:13

a little step in the right direction !;)

shake rattle n roll 4th Jun 2005 18:45

WOW! 1.5% that certainly is going to keep the troops happy.
I wonder what the Icelandics got as an increase....rumour has it 32%

747-200/300 4th Jun 2005 20:38

For the "average" contract F/O it could mean an extra $1700 in the bank each month. About a 30% increase to current pay. Not a bad raise, but I'm sure the very vocal group of sacked AAI pilots here on the board will bash it anyway.

Phil Squares 4th Jun 2005 23:31

but I'm sure the very vocal group of sacked AAI pilots here on the board will bash it anyway.

What about those of us who left on our own volition?

747fanatic 5th Jun 2005 02:52

When is AAI recruiting Captains again? have not seen their adverts in a while.

montys ex teaboy 5th Jun 2005 18:47

747-200/300

I am vocal as you put and I think I have the right be. Don't hear much from the management on these forums, do we. If I was in, or were, in a position of authority and therefore responsibility (the two go hand in hand) and being critised on these or other public forums I would at least try and put up some sort of defence. Wouldn't anyone worth their salt?

Yes I was fired as I had the balls to stand up to the so-called management at the time of my 12 months with AAI. Well they stopped my pay. They didn't have the stomach to actually tell me to my face or communicate with me in any way. All I wanted was honesty, which I value most of all and something that was sadly lacking.

Any company worth a damn, normally promotes its’ best people to positions of management, especially those that deal directly with employees. Man management and people skills (or the lack of it) come to mind. I had no respect for them whatsoever. If they were the “pick of the bunch” then what on earth were the rest like?? Trying to answer that question really scared me.

They paid me for 12 months and my training but they got no return for their, shall we call it “outlay” all because of their inability to communicate with any degree of honesty. I am aware that my pay, such as it was, and my training is very small in AAI’s overall costs. However if it was my company and employees just walked off without any return on “investment” I would not be very happy and would want to know why. AAI make a big issue on their website about a so called grievance policy. Well that’s BS take it from me. Maybe they just don’t care, which raises another issue. If the company can waste money on me and others that walk off the job, then they are surely in a position to give you a much larger pay rise than they have offered.

16 blades 8th Jun 2005 17:30

So what does a newhire F/O earn, on average, with AAI?

16B

Earl 8th Jun 2005 21:26

Probably more than you would make anywhere else..
You have read the trreads.
Probably a good job now, I have heard that changes have been made.

16 blades 9th Jun 2005 00:27

Can you quantify that with examples? It's difficult to work out just looking at the per diem info available.

16B

747-200/300 9th Jun 2005 01:49

There are different contracts:

The new F/O rate for those who had a 747 type rating when they were hired is $230 per day.

I'm not sure of the new rate for those F/Os that were hired without the type. I think it's around $200-205 per day now.

I would suggest a call or email to one of the contract companies (Direct or Airborne) to confirm the new contract rates for those interested in flying for AAI.

16 blades 9th Jun 2005 03:33

So, in an average month, how many 'days' pay does one earn? I am trying to compare with other operators who salary their pilots.

16B

Kep Ten Jim 9th Jun 2005 11:03

AAIGUY -

How much is a 744 captain earning now after the pay rise?

747-200/300 9th Jun 2005 12:49


So, in an average month, how many 'days' pay does one earn?
If you make yourself available every day of the month, you'll get paid for every day of the month. As an ad hoc contractor, you have a great deal of control over your availability.

I guess it depends on your personal situation and where you are based. If you live in your base city and make yourself available every day of the month, you'll be paid for every day of the month, even "off" days. I have never heard of anyone being forced into a "no pay" status if they made themselves available to fly.

AAIGUY 9th Jun 2005 16:54

Crews get paid for EVERYDAY they are out on contract. Whether you are on a day off, sick, flying , travelling, or hung over..you're still getting paid. They do not pay you when THEY fly you home at their expense on vacation.

Typically most guys will for 4-6 weeks and go home for a couple. It varies.

RE:B747-400 Capts. Not sure I fly the Classic. I think they make around $350 USD a day so that is $10,500 on a 30 day month + the $1500 perdeim. $12,000. That's completly tax free paid offshore.

Earl 9th Jun 2005 20:10

Same as before, you were paid the daily rate from the time you left your home until you returned.
Most cases 1 day travel time per leg.
While on base (away from your home) you got the daily rate even if you were not flying.
I think I am correct AAI guy can correct me if I am wrong.
Sounds like you guys have a good contract once again.
Much better than those of us in the Majik Kingdom.


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