Netjets Europe
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Netjets Europe
Has anybody left an Airline career to pursue one at Netjets Europe? I'm interested to hear from you if you have. Was it worth it in terms of pay, work/life balance, perks/benefits, WOCL working etc?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
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I left the airline industry after 6 years in UK/Europe to go to NetJets and haven't looked back since. Firstly, its the only bizjet company I'd want to work for. its like an airline. I've been there almost three years and will complete my command process by the end of the month. The company are going to have a huge retirement wave with around half the 700 pilots due to age out in the next few years. So from a career progression standpoint if it's looking good.
Pay: The base pay for new entries is quite low if you were to compare to airlines, but the productive/hours pay adds a lot. This doesn't help in terms of a guaranteed income but with a Captain's base salary quickly rising to €140,000 then €150,000 after 2 years from LC. In my first two years as an FO I grossed €120,000/€136,000 respectively. With my 400 hours in 2023 generating €36,000 in productivity pay in my February pay slip this year. I think the new entrant FO salary is now €64,000 but don't quote me on that.
Work/Life: I really like it. 6 days on 5 days off sounds a lot but a few things to consider. You are home day 1 and day 6, and so you're actually only fully away for 4 days. Yes day 1 and 6 might vary in times of starting and finishing, but I've managed to get home on day 5 a lot this year. But that isn't always the case and is seen as a bonus rather than a guarantee. Also, I find myself much more refreshed coming home after being away, where my sleep/work pattern isn't interrupted with all the daily life activities I had trying to fit things in between 2/4 sector days and during your block incredibly tiring by the end of it. At work our flightplans/slots hotels travel is all sorted by the various departments, so that's why I say its like an airline. But otherwise you need to be intuitive and think for yourself and get on with the job. On paper, 6/5 means I spend more days in my own bed than in a hotel bed.
Perks Benefits: €1.5m a year BUPA health insurance for you and spouse/kids. It is a Benefit in Kind so it is taxable in the UK at least. No staff travel, but we and our family can take empty jets as we wish. I've taken a Global from London to Zurich, and flown my parents on an empty leg. It's hit and miss, but when it hits it's excellent. Some people take 2 weeks off and jump on ferry (empty) flights around the south of Europe which is very easy if you're open to last-minute decisions. We don't have staff travel unfortunately though, as we cant offer anything in return to others through ID90 etc. We keep our hotel and Airmiles, which is a nice side benefit from the commute/staying away. RYR/EZY are used for airline's at last resort. So you rack up to gold Hilton etc etc. which can be used at your own discretion. having a roster published 2 months in advance is nice too. although 6/5 is the main pattern it can be slightly different if you have training/leave to accommodate the amount of days in a quarter of the year that they can use. Your days off are your days off. You can volunteer to work additional days as you wish and be compensated for such. You can live where you want. We have gateways across Europe. All London airports are gateways. Initially, I was a London Gateway so most times I was in a taxi to Heathrow for my airline to my aircraft wherever it was in Europe. Duty time starts at gateway report time, taxis/transport are all paid for by the company and normally organized. Sometimes downroute you Uber yourself/pay the taxi but you get a company AMEX for that stuff. If you want to start your day 1 in London and finish day 6 in Barcelona you can do that with short notice, have your days off in BCN, then start day 1 in BCN and finish day 6 back in London, for example. So there is flexibility there. Since I joined the company I moved up north and within a day it was all sorted, no pre-approval needed.
WOCL: It happens, but not often. Our owners like to fly at social times. But sometimes you might be ferrying into position early morning if slots/parking wasn't available the night before. But it's certainly not bad. I've never flown past 11.30pm so far on the short range fleet.
Overall, I'm very happy. it isn't for everyone, changes happen a lot at work. A 2 sector day might be changed to a 3 to accommodate all the changing factors. But as long as you come to NetJets with the view that for the 6 days they can use you as you wish, and in return you get 5 days off then its all good. Please check out the Netjets forum in the sub topic on PPRune, you'll find more info and answers there.
Pay: The base pay for new entries is quite low if you were to compare to airlines, but the productive/hours pay adds a lot. This doesn't help in terms of a guaranteed income but with a Captain's base salary quickly rising to €140,000 then €150,000 after 2 years from LC. In my first two years as an FO I grossed €120,000/€136,000 respectively. With my 400 hours in 2023 generating €36,000 in productivity pay in my February pay slip this year. I think the new entrant FO salary is now €64,000 but don't quote me on that.
Work/Life: I really like it. 6 days on 5 days off sounds a lot but a few things to consider. You are home day 1 and day 6, and so you're actually only fully away for 4 days. Yes day 1 and 6 might vary in times of starting and finishing, but I've managed to get home on day 5 a lot this year. But that isn't always the case and is seen as a bonus rather than a guarantee. Also, I find myself much more refreshed coming home after being away, where my sleep/work pattern isn't interrupted with all the daily life activities I had trying to fit things in between 2/4 sector days and during your block incredibly tiring by the end of it. At work our flightplans/slots hotels travel is all sorted by the various departments, so that's why I say its like an airline. But otherwise you need to be intuitive and think for yourself and get on with the job. On paper, 6/5 means I spend more days in my own bed than in a hotel bed.
Perks Benefits: €1.5m a year BUPA health insurance for you and spouse/kids. It is a Benefit in Kind so it is taxable in the UK at least. No staff travel, but we and our family can take empty jets as we wish. I've taken a Global from London to Zurich, and flown my parents on an empty leg. It's hit and miss, but when it hits it's excellent. Some people take 2 weeks off and jump on ferry (empty) flights around the south of Europe which is very easy if you're open to last-minute decisions. We don't have staff travel unfortunately though, as we cant offer anything in return to others through ID90 etc. We keep our hotel and Airmiles, which is a nice side benefit from the commute/staying away. RYR/EZY are used for airline's at last resort. So you rack up to gold Hilton etc etc. which can be used at your own discretion. having a roster published 2 months in advance is nice too. although 6/5 is the main pattern it can be slightly different if you have training/leave to accommodate the amount of days in a quarter of the year that they can use. Your days off are your days off. You can volunteer to work additional days as you wish and be compensated for such. You can live where you want. We have gateways across Europe. All London airports are gateways. Initially, I was a London Gateway so most times I was in a taxi to Heathrow for my airline to my aircraft wherever it was in Europe. Duty time starts at gateway report time, taxis/transport are all paid for by the company and normally organized. Sometimes downroute you Uber yourself/pay the taxi but you get a company AMEX for that stuff. If you want to start your day 1 in London and finish day 6 in Barcelona you can do that with short notice, have your days off in BCN, then start day 1 in BCN and finish day 6 back in London, for example. So there is flexibility there. Since I joined the company I moved up north and within a day it was all sorted, no pre-approval needed.
WOCL: It happens, but not often. Our owners like to fly at social times. But sometimes you might be ferrying into position early morning if slots/parking wasn't available the night before. But it's certainly not bad. I've never flown past 11.30pm so far on the short range fleet.
Overall, I'm very happy. it isn't for everyone, changes happen a lot at work. A 2 sector day might be changed to a 3 to accommodate all the changing factors. But as long as you come to NetJets with the view that for the 6 days they can use you as you wish, and in return you get 5 days off then its all good. Please check out the Netjets forum in the sub topic on PPRune, you'll find more info and answers there.
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Can I just double check 2 things. Am I correct in thinking no direct entry commands? And what was your monthly take home (gross or net as everyone’s tax affairs are their own). Ie do you get very little pay during the first year but then get a big bonus every feb. Or is it evened out over the year.
Thanks for the info you’ve given so far.
Thanks for the info you’ve given so far.
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There are no direct entry commands.
Bonus is paid in Feb. It is largely based on productivity, so it's not fixed. Mine was about €30K
I clear an average £4K a month into my bank account. I am however, a fairly senior captain on part time.
Bonus is paid in Feb. It is largely based on productivity, so it's not fixed. Mine was about €30K
I clear an average £4K a month into my bank account. I am however, a fairly senior captain on part time.
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