El Al Pilots claiming they are underpaid
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El Al Pilots claiming they are underpaid
www .jpost. com /international/article-707822
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They detailed what they claim are their wages: “We earn half of what every pilot in the Western world gets, about $138 an hour. You will not find a pilot in Europe or North America who earns less than $250 per hour on a 787 plane. In companies like United Airlines, Delta Airlines and American Airlines, it is $380 per hour.”
Can anyone comment on the accuracy of the amounts claimed for United/Delta/American?
I suspect they are comparing base hourly rate at El Al and not including several extras that are automatically added to their pay.
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They detailed what they claim are their wages: “We earn half of what every pilot in the Western world gets, about $138 an hour. You will not find a pilot in Europe or North America who earns less than $250 per hour on a 787 plane. In companies like United Airlines, Delta Airlines and American Airlines, it is $380 per hour.”
Can anyone comment on the accuracy of the amounts claimed for United/Delta/American?
I suspect they are comparing base hourly rate at El Al and not including several extras that are automatically added to their pay.
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A quick look at Airline Pilot Central has United pilots earning the most at $352/hour at the top of the pay scale on a 787 (12 year captain) with an additional $6.50/hour for international duties and a $3.00 per diem. So a few dollars short of the $380 figure quoted. So they’re being a bit disingenuous, especially on drawing comparisons to American legacy carriers.
Maybe not exactly Western World but still Europe, LOT Polish Airlines 787 co-pilots earn max 89€/hr, cpts 112€/hr.
PS: Quote: 'You will not find a pilot in Europe or North America who earns less than $250 per hour on a 787 plane.' - Definitely wrong.
PS: Quote: 'You will not find a pilot in Europe or North America who earns less than $250 per hour on a 787 plane.' - Definitely wrong.
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See the point but then again El Al probably has some form of collective bargaining setup in contrast to Lot there, so it's not really fair to compare the two unless I am missing something.
Sorry for the thread drift but it seems I'm being paid under half the going rate?
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I m right to day in USA they use some factors hours for there salary ?
meaning you can fly 500hr real hours a year but be paid 1200hr factors hours (depending night shift, or difficult trip or some rules I don't know, ...)
So at the end, an usa CPT paid xxx$/hr is in fact paid much more per real hour.
I am correct ?
Nothing like this in Europe that I m aware of.
meaning you can fly 500hr real hours a year but be paid 1200hr factors hours (depending night shift, or difficult trip or some rules I don't know, ...)
So at the end, an usa CPT paid xxx$/hr is in fact paid much more per real hour.
I am correct ?
Nothing like this in Europe that I m aware of.
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I m right to day in USA they use some factors hours for there salary ?
meaning you can fly 500hr real hours a year but be paid 1200hr factors hours (depending night shift, or difficult trip or some rules I don't know, ...)
So at the end, an usa CPT paid xxx$/hr is in fact paid much more per real hour.
I am correct ?
Nothing like this in Europe that I m aware of.
meaning you can fly 500hr real hours a year but be paid 1200hr factors hours (depending night shift, or difficult trip or some rules I don't know, ...)
So at the end, an usa CPT paid xxx$/hr is in fact paid much more per real hour.
I am correct ?
Nothing like this in Europe that I m aware of.
The way I understand pilot salaries in the US is that they are paid an hourly rate with a minimum guarantee of usually around 70-75 hours per month. So if they work 50 hours, they get paid for 70. If they work 80, they get paid for 80. Some also have overtime rates for hours worked over a certain amount. There are also rate increases for international duties and per diems on top. I can’t imagine that a pilot often works less than the minimum guarantee except in periods of economic downturn. At which point US pilots will get furloughed. No pay, but get to keep their seniority when called back to work.
