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U.K. parliamentary petition

Old 21st Jul 2021, 23:13
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U.K. parliamentary petition

A petition has been set up for U.K. parliament to discuss setting up a reciprocal agreement between the UK and EU with the transfer of UK CAA Flight Crew Licences to EASA member states to avoid applicants having to convert their licences by retaking all fourteen ATPL exams in an EASA state, a skills tests, an EASA ELP test and class 1 EASA medical. 10k signatures are required, there are only 6k so far, so letís help those U.K. pilots double screwed by both Brexit and COVID to be in with a fighting chance of continuing their aviation careers. Canít post the link here but just search for petition number 57813 on the U.K. parliament petition site.

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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 05:52
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Already there is agreement that 14 exams are no longer required, with various caveats. IAA, Malta, Austro control are with the programme as far as we can determine. Guidance has come from EASA. As for the recognition of former UK EASA licence holders, to be able to have an easy journey to another EASA CA licence, yes have signed the petition.
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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 08:03
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Can you post link please
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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 09:12
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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/578133
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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 13:54
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Done. Thank you
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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 18:46
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Done, but it takes 100k to get a debate so still plenty more support needed!
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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 19:17
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Best thing you can do is share on groups with friends and families and ask them to help. Pilots alone aren't going to hit 10k
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Old 23rd Jul 2021, 08:12
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What about non British Citizens holding a UK issued Licence? Are they not considered?
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Old 23rd Jul 2021, 08:14
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Done
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Old 23rd Jul 2021, 09:01
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I believe this just means a 3rd country (which UK is now classed as) ATPL holder who applies for an EASA ATPL can have their 14 EASA exams that are still within the 7 year validity period recognised for the theory requirement of the EASA ATPL issue.
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Old 23rd Jul 2021, 09:03
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This is about a process to enable UK licence holders to gain an EASA licence - nothing to do with citizenship 👍
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Old 23rd Jul 2021, 09:57
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Well, than I wish this petition was open for anyone with a UK issued licence and not only available for British Citizens and UK residents. Just wondering.
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Old 23rd Jul 2021, 11:54
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Unfortunately as it was a political decision to remove the UK CAA from EASA and not make sure there was an agreement in place for converting UK to EASA licences, we need to petition the UK Government to try and get it rectified, hence you need to be a UK citizen or resident. Having an FAA licence would not entitle me to use a US Government system to petition them if I wasn't a resident or citizen. UK licence holders who aren't UK citizens or residents could encourage those who are to petition, or petition in other ways, if they felt inclined.
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Old 23rd Jul 2021, 12:49
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I bet there's lots of Europeans (Non British) holding UK issued licences, who did not have the right to vote during the BREXIT referendum and are now faced with a useless licence.

They own a UK licence, therefore they have the right to petition, at the least.
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Old 23rd Jul 2021, 21:37
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Send a personally written mail to these smug :

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And what about the UK CAA that dares not mention or support British pilots with this issue?
https://www.caa.co.uk/Our-work/About...ard-and-staff/

And why, pray, tell is it not even a 'position' worthy of mention on BALPA's website?
https://www.balpa.org/positions

What an utterly useless band of buffoons we are served by.
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Old 23rd Jul 2021, 22:50
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Of course they do, just not using a system specifically for UK citizens and residents, as discussed before.
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Old 23rd Jul 2021, 22:50
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https://www.balpa.org/Media-Centre/P...AGING-POST-BRE
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Old 24th Jul 2021, 05:44
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Thanks, happened finally
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Old 24th Jul 2021, 14:20
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LIcensed engineers are in the same position. EASA licence holders can work in the UK on G reg. But CAA licensed engineers are not allowed to certify EU aircraft.
Adding engineers to the petition could help all
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