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Old 30th May 2020, 10:27
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On the subject of office roles being stimulating (or not) - unless you work in a couple of very limited fields which actually create new things, pretty much every job becomes routine and mundane quite quickly. Just as flying an aircraft involves SOP, facilitating most processes in the majority of businesses relies heavily upon set procedures and protocols. So, whatever you end up doing in that office - chances are that you won't reinvent the hot water, just as you won't by flying commercially. Therefore, any long-term choice boils down to desired lifestyle, income and prospects.
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Old 30th May 2020, 11:01
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Originally Posted by Meester proach View Post
Well, Iím sorry to hear that. TBH flying as a career , is probably best as a hobby ....get a high paid city job, and fly for fun at weekends. After all we canít go fly where we want, when we want.
God I love seeing absolutely DELUDED pilots saying stuff like that. Tell me what other career has you getting paid that much and working 3-4 days a week.
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Old 30th May 2020, 12:08
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Originally Posted by Meester proach View Post
Well, Iím sorry to hear that. TBH flying as a career , is probably best as a hobby ....get a high paid city job, and fly for fun at weekends. After all we canít go fly where we want, when we want.
Unless you have years of experience this is pure codswallop. Expect 100 hour weeks, awful commutes and BS day to day BS.
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Old 30th May 2020, 14:48
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Did we leave out the catch that "company phone included" will likely mean "you'd better be available 24/7/365, be it during your commute, at 9 PM after a working day or on the weekend"? Did we mention that you'll see loads of people who spend most of their working day on Facebook while someone else, who might as well be you, gets one task after another thrown at them just because you appear to be taking things a bit more seriously than the average Joe on the adjacent desk? Did we also comment on the lovely attitude of "there's no going home until the project is finished, even if that means staying until 10:30 PM for little to no overtime payment"? And the time which will be simply wasted for nothing in return in traffic jams and supermarket queues because you're always travelling to and from work just when everyone else is and you are shopping for groceries just when everyone else is?

If you think that this is better than the average flight ops department - well, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Both can be great places to work at, but both can also be a mess. Neither flying, nor office work are inherently good or inherently bad in terms of how you will be treated. There are toxic companies with a terrible working environment and non-existent work ethics in every branch you can think of. So, if you turn your back to the "horrible and inhumane airlines" in hopes for getting better treatment elsewhere, you might be in for a nasty surprise.
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Old 30th May 2020, 17:21
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Originally Posted by ADFUS View Post
God I love seeing absolutely DELUDED pilots saying stuff like that. Tell me what other career has you getting paid that much and working 3-4 days a week.
I didnít say it would be easy did I ? Why so bitter ? Another wannabe ?
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Old 30th May 2020, 21:29
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Originally Posted by ADFUS View Post
God I love seeing absolutely DELUDED pilots saying stuff like that. Tell me what other career has you getting paid that much and working 3-4 days a week.
I can get paid more working 2 days a week in IT consultancy...
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Old 30th May 2020, 21:30
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Originally Posted by ADFUS View Post
God I love seeing absolutely DELUDED pilots saying stuff like that. Tell me what other career has you getting paid that much and working 3-4 days a week.
Any career where you are the one accountable (i.e. going to jail) for the lives of your pax, the stuff you carry on board and 100+ millions euros equipment.
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Old 30th May 2020, 21:50
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As far as I know, train drivers in Italy work 6 days a week, and it's mostly by sole operator nowadays. Just saying it since many mentioned driving trains.
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Old 31st May 2020, 05:24
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Originally Posted by Meester proach View Post
I didnít say it would be easy did I ? Why so bitter ? Another wannabe ?
You didn't say it but you sure implied it. "Get a high paying city job they said".
I'm only bitter because I just got made redundant down under (got my 3 month notice) and prior to that flew with plenty of Captains who were fed up with flying and thought they could just waltz off and make 200k NZD+ just like that, while working 3-4 days a week, 6 weeks annual leave +++. Guess what pumpkin, ya can't.

Anyway I'm off to brush up on my Python and JS which I haven't touched in a production environment for over 8 years. Also be weary of IT professionals who claim that they "CAN" make more money than flying but only working 2 days a week, on a professional pilot forum of all places. Okay mate sure ya can
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Old 31st May 2020, 13:38
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Best of luck ,
By high paid city job - I meant you’d have had to start out there, not career swap.

nothing in life worth having is easy !
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Old 31st May 2020, 17:27
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"Also be weary of IT professionals who claim that they "CAN" make more money than flying but only working 2 days a week, on a professional pilot forum of all places. Okay mate sure ya can"

Depends what you compare it with. If you are flying a turboprop or a light jet even as a Captain you are unlikely to be earning much above 50k a year. So yes it is quite feasible that certain IT consultants could earn as much in 2 days.


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Old 31st May 2020, 19:43
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Whilst I’m grateful for any ideas , I hate to say it, but flying isn’t all about money .

You have to earn enough but, the excitement level of taking off in a large jet is still there and sure as hell beats the excitement of “ who borrowed my stapler and didn’t return it “, that’s partially why the readjustment would be so great. It’s still a coveted and unusual job and not only that , the routine and lifestyle is very different to a 9-5 existence
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 03:56
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Originally Posted by RogueOne View Post
I can get paid more working 2 days a week in IT consultancy...
My wife is director of recruitment in a large famous IT firm and I have first hand info about the salaries in consultancy. Some are pretty descent I admit but way below mine and many of my colleagues in terms of hourly rate (A330 Captain/+300k per year working 8 days per month). I will never trade my job for an IT job...
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 07:52
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The trouble is that your extraordinary pay is already an outlier statistically in the aviation world where a 330 skipper would command less than half the money and be quite grateful to have it. You must surely wonder how 300k for 8 days work a month is sustainable? If I had to bet on the sustainability of a career over the next 40 years, IT would seem a better bet than aviation.
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 07:55
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Originally Posted by ADFUS View Post
God I love seeing absolutely DELUDED pilots saying stuff like that. Tell me what other career has you getting paid that much and working 3-4 days a week.
Oh dear. I think someone REALLY needs to do their research.
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 08:18
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Ok, go on. I'm all ears.
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 09:00
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Well for starters, don’t the low costs do 5/2, 5/3 ?

wheres this 3/4 days a week BS come from ?
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 09:18
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When I said do your research I didn't mean me or others spoon feed you info.

But anyway, as you're all ears .....if you seriously think we're all swanning around doing 3-4 days a week on "that much money" (in your words) I think it's you that "DELUDED".

Not sure what T's and C's are like where you are but over here in Blighty they're nothing like that. Unfortunately!
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 23:09
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Originally Posted by ACP View Post
My wife is director of recruitment in a large famous IT firm and I have first hand info about the salaries in consultancy. Some are pretty descent I admit but way below mine and many of my colleagues in terms of hourly rate (A330 Captain/+300k per year working 8 days per month). I will never trade my job for an IT job...
Not in Europe, I reckon
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 11:20
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8 days a month for 300K/? Who/where on Earth is that?
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