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Old 13th April 2020 | 10:47
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Is still the majority of FR pilots self employed contractors? I can imagine they are paid naught, or?
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Old 14th April 2020 | 03:01
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Is still the majority of FR pilots self employed contractors? I can imagine they are paid naught, or?
It depends. There are many more people with direct contracts than in the past days. In France and Germany there are no self employed contractors. In Italy the majority have direct contracts. A friend, who is with McGinley told me that the agency will pay 12h during these months and then will recoup them once they start flying again.

In Ryanair Sun (Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Bulgaria and probably some more Eastern European country I don’t remember), there are only contractors, who had a minimum guaranteed of 40h per month. When all of this started, they were quickly sent a shameful pdf to sign and send back, accepting the 40h to be reduced to 12h, otherwise face dismissal. Those working their notice period had their contracts immediately terminated with one day notice.
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Old 14th April 2020 | 10:34
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Contractors might now regret minimising tax by deliberately running their prior years accounts to show minimal profit - because in some countries there is government support for the self employed, but based on a percentage of previous years profits!
I absolutely agree with you, no doubt. I think some started regretting that already last summer where in certain bases the number of hours dropped dramatically.

It’s worth remembering that a great chunk of contractors did try to switch to a direct contract and were ignored/turned down based on the fact that there were “no vacancies”
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Old 14th April 2020 | 12:05
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It’s worth remembering that a great chunk of contractors did try to switch to a direct contract and were ignored/turned down based on the fact that there were “no vacancies”
There were plenty of vacancies elsewhere. You can't be surprised by them treating you like !!!!. On the other hand, Ryanair is probably one of the very few companies that can afford to be grounded for an extensive time.
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Old 21st April 2020 | 21:35
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For How long Italy and Spain is paying the ERTE or 80% of the salary ?
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 09:39
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Indeed, genuine self employed that are already established on the HMRC system and up to date with tax returns for previous years, will get 80 % of 3 months profit averaged over a year, capped at £2500 (which then becomes taxable) so no getting any with that, but if you are unfortunate enough to be a "Director" of some dodgy tax evasion scheme then expect some fairly detailed digging to occur before they pay you anything. The general advice seems to be if one falls in the later category, for the sake of a few months let sleeping dogs lay. Your silver lining may become your black cloud
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 10:19
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Originally Posted by Kirks gusset
Indeed, genuine self employed that are already established on the HMRC system and up to date with tax returns for previous years, will get 80 % of 3 months profit averaged over a year, capped at £2500 (which then becomes taxable) so no getting any with that, but if you are unfortunate enough to be a "Director" of some dodgy tax evasion scheme then expect some fairly detailed digging to occur before they pay you anything. The general advice seems to be if one falls in the later category, for the sake of a few months let sleeping dogs lay. Your silver lining may become your black cloud
I fear very few will have a legitimate account set up with HMRC. Horrid situation 😔
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 10:27
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For How long Italy and Spain is paying the ERTE or 80% of the salary ?
I dont know about Spain, but cassaintegrazione in Italy can last 24 months or even more if needed.
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 11:26
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ERTE pays you 70% for up to six months and up to 50% after that. I think it’s limited to one year duration, but not 100% sure on that.
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 11:40
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It really is down to the luck of the draw as to what you get. Not to add too much doom and gloom, but there is also the question how the government is going to pay for all this, with reduced tax income etc. One option is a levy on people's assets. So you might have a dramatically reduced income and then have to pay 10% on the value of your house or your pension. I am just picking things at random, but the point remains that the trillions being pledged around the world are our money and will have to be paid back.
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 13:20
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Post of the day, thread-independent.
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 14:29
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Does anybody have the figures for a Malta Air contract in Italy? That is, in normal circumstances.
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 15:08
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Originally Posted by Banana Joe
Does anybody have the figures for a Malta Air contract in Italy? That is, in normal circumstances.

What do you want to know? Position?
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 15:33
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What do you want to know? Position?
Ah yes, I should have mentioned FO. I was interested in basic salary and flight pay, plus the conditions for Fondo Volo and Sanivolo.
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 15:54
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Thanks very much.
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 16:31
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One further question: is the figures the same for crews based in MLA?
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 18:01
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One further question: is the figures the same for crews based in MLA?
no. Each country has its own CLA. Malta, Italy, France & Germany... vastly different!
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 18:15
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Anybody have the Salary in figures for the Malta Air contract in Italy as Captain?
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Old 22nd April 2020 | 18:39
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Many thanks Banana I think it is an old contract. Does anybody knows the average take home with Malta Air contract in Italy as Captain?
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Old 27th April 2020 | 13:29
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They offered a new contract to sign with worst terms and conditions. If you don’t want to sign .... You are out.
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