cargolux
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 13
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From: old europe
monthly salary (basic) about 3000 $ (starting)
per diem 4$/hr,average per month 1000$
time to command 8-10 years at present
good: nice destinations,usually nice,relaxed atmosphere ,good standards regarding training,sim etc.
bad: increasing of minimum rest at destination,a lot of positioning(our max is 20hrs)
very bad: family life (nonexistent),average trip length 7-12 days,off-days per month 6+3 days, if you don`t live in luxembourg or vicinity you even have less days at home(flight-schedules out of lux/ID-flying agreements are very bad,you have to be at base 12 hrs before departure)
rgds
per diem 4$/hr,average per month 1000$
time to command 8-10 years at present
good: nice destinations,usually nice,relaxed atmosphere ,good standards regarding training,sim etc.
bad: increasing of minimum rest at destination,a lot of positioning(our max is 20hrs)
very bad: family life (nonexistent),average trip length 7-12 days,off-days per month 6+3 days, if you don`t live in luxembourg or vicinity you even have less days at home(flight-schedules out of lux/ID-flying agreements are very bad,you have to be at base 12 hrs before departure)
rgds
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 167
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From: Here and There
Well said last officer,
I hope the company will adress the issues you mentioned under "very bad". Those issues, especially the family life are as you correctly mentioned VERY VERY BAD !!
If you are married, you will get a divorce... if you are not married you never will be... if you have kids, they don't know who you are... if you don't have kids yet, you may have some day, but they will be spread all over the world......
Otherwise a pleasant company to work for.
I hope the company will adress the issues you mentioned under "very bad". Those issues, especially the family life are as you correctly mentioned VERY VERY BAD !!
If you are married, you will get a divorce... if you are not married you never will be... if you have kids, they don't know who you are... if you don't have kids yet, you may have some day, but they will be spread all over the world......
Otherwise a pleasant company to work for.
Top Dog
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 2,098
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From: Close to FACT
Avius, does one assume you have applied or are considering applying for Atlas Air? They pay by the bl/h & perdiem about half of what we get.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...444#post617444
As for last officer
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...479#post624479
Oh well, at least if you really don't like it chez nous you're doing something about it. Makes space for all the people I meet who'd give their proverbial left .... to join us.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...444#post617444
As for last officer
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...479#post624479
Oh well, at least if you really don't like it chez nous you're doing something about it. Makes space for all the people I meet who'd give their proverbial left .... to join us.
Last edited by CR2; 15th September 2002 at 08:28.
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 13
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From: old europe
dear cargorat,
please correct me,but I thought this forum serves sharing of opinions.A colleague wanted to know how people like it at clx,I answered.everybody who has a different view,please go ahead!
just because there are companies with even worse conditions doesn't mean I have to like it at clx,does it?
Your friendly advice simply to **** if I don't appreciate the situation is extremely clever and thoughtfull,thank you very much,but I guess even you are aware that things are not that easy,so what is the point?
could it be ,that a lot of non-pilot staff at clx(like you) are quite happy with the fact,that we,the pilots,are working our butts off, keeping the company healthy,securing jobs and profit sharing for all of you???
rgds
please correct me,but I thought this forum serves sharing of opinions.A colleague wanted to know how people like it at clx,I answered.everybody who has a different view,please go ahead!
just because there are companies with even worse conditions doesn't mean I have to like it at clx,does it?
Your friendly advice simply to **** if I don't appreciate the situation is extremely clever and thoughtfull,thank you very much,but I guess even you are aware that things are not that easy,so what is the point?
could it be ,that a lot of non-pilot staff at clx(like you) are quite happy with the fact,that we,the pilots,are working our butts off, keeping the company healthy,securing jobs and profit sharing for all of you???
rgds
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 167
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From: Here and There
Cargorat,
I really appreciate your skills as detective. I assume, you have "Cargolux" tatooed on your "proverbial left".
Listen, this is a forum to share opinions and experiences. You as a moderator should know this. You certainly are entitled to your opinion, but do not try to intimidate legitimate discussions.
As you are not a pilot yourself, you have to rely on 3rd party inputs. We as pilots experience the good and bad things on a daily basis....and talk about them. What is wrong with that ??
Last Officer mentioned basically everything else I'd have to add.
See ya.
I really appreciate your skills as detective. I assume, you have "Cargolux" tatooed on your "proverbial left".
Listen, this is a forum to share opinions and experiences. You as a moderator should know this. You certainly are entitled to your opinion, but do not try to intimidate legitimate discussions.
As you are not a pilot yourself, you have to rely on 3rd party inputs. We as pilots experience the good and bad things on a daily basis....and talk about them. What is wrong with that ??
Last Officer mentioned basically everything else I'd have to add.
See ya.
Last edited by Avius; 15th September 2002 at 22:47.
