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You are not sure what’s hard to understand because I would guess your experience is limited to airline flying in europe. You can easily make 3 times that, in very nice places around the world (NOT china), in a very interesting and stimulating environment.This is why I was asking.
But like I said, I suspect the interest is mainly given by being based where one wants, and a nice working environment, which I agree are nice benefits to have.
What is worrying to hear though, is people at BA considering this job. And it’s not even the first time I see this. Incredible.
A lot of people make decisions on more than money. Some folks, me for one. Value being at home close to family. Instead of in the desert, or China or anywhere else for that matter. Home every night to my family, no commuting. Priceless.

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How is that worrying? Utterly baffling. BA just had a strike, unless you’re from the London area it involves considerable commuting.
A lot of people make decisions on more than money. Some folks, me for one. Value being at home close to family. Instead of in the desert, or China or anywhere else for that matter. Home every night to my family, no commuting. Priceless.
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From: Uk
How is that worrying? Utterly baffling. BA just had a strike, unless you’re from the London area it involves considerable commuting.
A lot of people make decisions on more than money. Some folks, me for one. Value being at home close to family. Instead of in the desert, or China or anywhere else for that matter. Home every night to my family, no commuting. Priceless.
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BBthe80s please direct me to where I can get paid three times my salary without going to China, genuinely interested, I have had a look about and jobs paying £16,500 a month net and £9000 a month pension don't seem to be popping up?

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What is worrying to hear though, is people at BA considering this job. And its not even the first time I see this. Incredible.
I could be wrong, but the fact folk are now leaving BA for other carriers is quite a statement of how far conditions/lifestyle at BA have fallen (even more so when compared to other flag/legacy type carriers).
Seems to be a Profit not People management culture at BA.

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From: Either the back of a sim, or wherever Crewing send me.
What is worrying to hear though, is people at BA considering this job. And it’s not even the first time I see this. Incredible.
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From: Thailand

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I’m always a bit puzzled when someone who decided to be an airline pilot has as his highest priority being home every night, and possibly never ever leave his home town.
Like I said, to each their own.
Like I said, to each their own.

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My priority is Family, then work. I'm glad that I can fly for a profitable, expanding airline which delivers excellent customer service and is only 30-40 mins from home. It also pays fairly well - yes, it could always be better, but having done just under 600 hours in the last 12 months I'm fairly happy with my lot in life.
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Interesting comment. When I started flying I was single and my goal was to get into BA and see the world. Then I got married, then I had kids. It's amazing what having a family will do to your outlook. I quickly realised that I did not want to spend my life killing time in a random city waiting to get back home when I could be home every night. Granted, it might be in the middle of the night, but at least I can still kiss my children goodnight and sleep next to my wife.
My priority is Family, then work. I'm glad that I can fly for a profitable, expanding airline which delivers excellent customer service and is only 30-40 mins from home. It also pays fairly well - yes, it could always be better, but having done just under 600 hours in the last 12 months I'm fairly happy with my lot in life.
My priority is Family, then work. I'm glad that I can fly for a profitable, expanding airline which delivers excellent customer service and is only 30-40 mins from home. It also pays fairly well - yes, it could always be better, but having done just under 600 hours in the last 12 months I'm fairly happy with my lot in life.
Certainly makes me realise what I’ve been missing over the years.....
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion. However once you have kids this opinion changes pretty quickly!
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You will join on a 75% contract straight away if you dont have previous jet experience and optional winter leave options are available immediately as far as I'm aware, you have to bid for OWL but I don't know anyone who dosent get it unless you are a trainer, then it gets a bit more complicated. They have just introduced fixed part time contracts of varying length, with all of the time off over the winter, but you need to have at least one years service to apply I believe.
They are also mandated to discuss flexible working options for people but you generally need a VERY good reason to bag one of those, generally some high level family commitments such as caring for a parent/child.
They are also mandated to discuss flexible working options for people but you generally need a VERY good reason to bag one of those, generally some high level family commitments such as caring for a parent/child.

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You are quite right, each to his/her own. But I would say that eventually, when the downroute hotel has lost its charms and the thought of another night drinking with a crew half (third!!) your age begins to pall, most will yearn for their own bed and the company of their friends and family.



