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Ryanair closing bases

Old 6th Oct 2019, 07:41
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Originally Posted by pineteam View Post
Iím just woundering: How can they still compete against Easyjet for instance who operates more and more A320 NEO which burn up to 15% less fuel compare to A320 CEO. A 737 800 is pretty much obsolete nowadays in a such competitive environment.
I think the general answer to your question is in this thread! Their operating costs are lower than EZY because of above shenanigans.



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Old 6th Oct 2019, 08:45
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The running costs of the max vs the neo are not far apart, but Ryanair really do not want further max delays. The capital costs of 737s are much lower
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Old 6th Oct 2019, 10:18
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Originally Posted by OutsideCAS View Post
accessing the Airbus product via Laudamotion gives a chance to compare the B vs A argument. I think time will favour the Airbus product - not just for Ryan but also for another prolific (UK) Boeing user who (words have it) are possibly looking at the Airbus product to replace the -800.
I think so too. Boeing lost the narrowbody SH market in Europe quite some time ago and has only defended an ever shrinking bridgehead by offering huge discounts on the NG. The MAX disaster certainly doesn‘t help a comeback. Even over in the US forums people are concerned about the taxes slapped onto Airbus products because there is currently no US built equivalent to the A320 series, even if the Alabama plant will be spared from tariffs.
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Old 6th Oct 2019, 14:06
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Originally Posted by pineteam View Post
I’m just woundering: How can they still compete against Easyjet for instance who operates more and more A320 NEO which burn up to 15% less fuel compare to A320 CEO. A 737 800 is pretty much obsolete nowadays in a such competitive environment.
RYR do not pay social contributions and health insurance on behalf of their crew - wherever they can. Left France and maybe somewhere in BE/NL because of this. If you think the pilots get a hard shoulder, it means you never heard of how RYR cc are treated.

My best estimate is Soc+Heal is about 35% of employee cost on the continent. Your observation about NEOs will be true, however not so many of them flying yet. Plus I guess EZY as a company become more complex on the inside and gained some fat over the years. Whereas RYR seem to be ruthless and keeping in shape.

Your question makes a lot more sense to me if we substitute RYR for WIZZ - and then I wonder same as you. But those 321 NEOs @230 seats do not come cheap at all. Unlike the NGs, I suppose.
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Old 6th Oct 2019, 23:33
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Originally Posted by zerotohero View Post
What an absolute cancer to aviation.

Id rather wash dishs than go back to Ryanair or any of the outfits they now own.
But pilots deserve a lot of the blame for that
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 01:15
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Originally Posted by beachbumflyer View Post
But pilots deserve a lot of the blame for that
U retarded mate?
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 10:02
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Originally Posted by RavenOne View Post
U retarded mate?
https://ryanair.workable.com/j/8D93F...viationJobs.Me

It seems the closing bases refers to a worst T & C in the company.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 12:38
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I don't see any base closures here, just a mere swap of the email/manual headers, contracts and crew id-s from RYR to Buzz/Laudamotion coming with worse T&C-s...
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