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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 13:34
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Sooooo, 12 resigning every day, You say.
28 aircraft ,lets say 300+ pilots
10 days 120 leave
20 days 240 leave
30 days 360 gone
Lets say 3 months notice. So, that is end June!
I tell You what : BS!
Cpt B

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Dozens as in plural, so potentially 24 or 36 every day, wow!
DS

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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 15:14
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BSU

I think 763Jock (not that he is anymore!) was being facetious!

Chill out!
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 15:20
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So who is more likely to last, then?? TCX or Jet2?! Let the games begin...
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 16:46
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Originally Posted by richardthethird View Post
So who is more likely to last, then?? TCX or Jet2?! Let the games begin...
Not a game I think anybody wants to really take part in, and certainly not one people should be excited about......
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 16:47
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People's livelihoods are not a game....
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 16:54
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Don’t I know it... Just trying to make light of a pretty horrible situation. It was actually a genuine question. Aside from the obvious TCX worries re: sale, which one do we think is likely to last longest?

TCX have a lot of debt, Jet2 have had a rapid expansion. Are either sustainable?
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 17:56
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What are people’s thoughts on Virgin Atlantic, and their ability to ride out any possible upcoming economic issues?
Are they now more financially secure and stable with Delta owning 49%?

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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 18:36
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I don’t know why people think Jet 2 are poking a hornets nest at STN, There is little business conflict Ryanair are a Loco and Jet 2 a package tour company.

I would also not bet money aganst the Jet 2 boss Philip Meason, he was doing deals long before MoL left school and has built the very substantial Dart Group that has a wide range of interests .
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 18:45
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Originally Posted by 763 jock View Post
Dozens resigning every day. Most jointing Avion Express and SmartLynx. All pilots in melt down.

Time to LHS will be less than 12 months at this rate.....
...I detect a wind up.
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 00:44
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Originally Posted by macdo View Post
Not sure that it does, Marcus. I hope are not doing a Purple Bricks.
Who or what is Purple Bricks?

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Old 5th Mar 2019, 08:24
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Originally Posted by GA F15 View Post
What are people’s thoughts on Virgin Atlantic, and their ability to ride out any possible upcoming economic issues?
Are they now more financially secure and stable with Delta owning 49%?
Delta (Biggest and most profitable airline in the world ) is the biggest shareholder of Virgin . Also KLM/Airfrance are also in the mix . So Virgin is in a very stable position . Haters will hate but Virgin is a fantastic place to work , makes BA look like an absolute shambles ! (Which is sad as I have had many fond memories at BA )
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 09:38
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More interestingly, we seem to have a number of economic genius posting on this thread... What is this huge contraction in the industry we will see in the next 18 months? Or this nailed on recession?? Apart from the fall out of Brexit? Which, if doesn’t end with a cliff edge Brexit, where will it leave our UK industry?? Contraction, or major exapnasion plans? Truth is none of us know! Pundits have been predicting the next credit crisis for over four years now, I’m not criticising as I am genuinely interested how we know this ticking time bomb is about to explode ( excluding Brexit).

Could it not be the industry is already going through a natural correction? Monarch, Norwegian, Primera, Wow, Air Berlin & Flybmi.. question is, I guess, will other Airlines expand rapidly to fill perceived voids???

At BA the head honcho’s are curbing expansion thoughts until a big event on March the 29th. With that said they are projecting increasing profits over the next two years, circa €2.1 billion..... Maybe their analysts need to look at this thread!
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 13:23
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deltahotel‘s Post is the most valid one on this Thread, yet everyone seems to be ignoring it.

Often called “the industry’s best kept secret”, it seems to be easy to see why it remains a ‘secret’ when people like deltahotel state it so clearly and yet everyone ignores it. Freight is growing well (airfreight services contribute £7.2 billion to the UK economy and support 151,000 jobs) and that has to be the answer to thoughts on Job Security.
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 15:22
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Yeah. If you like perpetual nights.
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 17:03
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Originally Posted by richardthethird View Post
Yeah. If you like perpetual nights.
exactly , also
when the job gets taken over by computers completely it will be freight first
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 17:16
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Originally Posted by NoelEvans View Post
Often called “the industry’s best kept secret”, it seems to be easy to see why it remains a ‘secret’ when people like deltahotel state it so clearly and yet everyone ignores it. Freight is growing well (airfreight services contribute £7.2 billion to the UK economy and support 151,000 jobs) and that has to be the answer to thoughts on Job Security.
Yep, nothing like flying 30-year old frames exclusively at night for less money than pax airlines. You do fly less hours, but every hour of flying at 2-6 am is killing you much faster than the ones flown during daylight.
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 18:50
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Well, it’s a thread about security rather than ts cs and lifestyle and when you’ve just been made redundant maybe that’s important. Just trying to add to the sum of knowledge to aid those recently cast adrift ( or anyone else who may fancy a change).

Other stuff is (partially) correct and I appreciate it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. After 16 years of this I still don’t think i’ve been as bone tired knackered as after 3 consecutive night turkeys/Cyprus/canaries with driving home between. I never could prepare properly for 0500 reports. I didn’t like the seasonal skewing and working hard throughout the summer.

The fleet? The LH ac were brand new 10 years ago. The current crop of fleet replacement 757s are about 15 years old - what’s the average age of the tck fleet?

Hope this helps

dh

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Old 5th Mar 2019, 19:43
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Are they basing in the UK DH? Or is it still Leipzig?
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 20:22
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Main European operating base is Leipzig, but crews are based there and also EMA. We’re taking on a lot of non brits so I think there are EMA basings on offer.
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Old 6th Mar 2019, 14:36
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Without turning this into a DHL thread rather than a Thomas Cook thread, can you shed some light on the FO salary, roster stability and routes/trips/layovers you get from EMA?
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