Advice from JET 2 pilots please

[macdo]

Originally Posted by Cpt.Jason

From my point of view, I think this is unfair with people we are at the pool....

I'm sorry to say but you need to grow up a bit. The airline industry has never been fair, and the lower down the ladder you are, the less fair it is. This is not new. It has always been and always will be, like this. In fact, I struggle to imagine an industry which is less fair to its staff. The fact that the industry is trying to help the tcx pilots (while, of course, expanding into the gap that TC has created) is quite uplifting, but I am not fooled into thinking that it is altruism!

[Thepirate]

The tcx pilots getting called first is completely fair. A hold pool is not a first in first served situation. Assuming they dip their toes in the pool and are called up straight away is because they have the skills and experience J2 need now. They will not call a low timer over a seasoned Captain. That is fair. (Unless specifically thats what they need)

If someone has similar/same experience ratings etc as another and is called after a shorter time thats where you complain. Just because you filled in the application sooner than another does not make you a better candidate.

that being said jason I know its horrible waiting, hang in there. This is all complete speculation tbh at the moment.

[OutsideCAS]

From my point of view, I think this is unfair with people we are at the pool....

I can understand this line of thinking in your position although as others have suggested, this has nothing to do with fairness or time of application but more to do with what J2 needs as a business. And there is the crux in that like all airlines, this is a business.

By the same method above it is also true to say that if the situation is felt to be that unfair - maybe to be congruent with ones-self it may be better to remove the application from the hold pool and move your efforts to another employer?. Because this is a business there should never be any loyalty to one company alone i would suggest (which may sound harsh). Why? of course we have to remember that in any downturn there is no reciprocal feeling from an employer - they will shed employees as quickly as possible without any feeling of remorse.

[Cpt.Jason]

Jet2

From the others Jet2 forum here


A321’s for next summer
Ground crew for Jet2 have just received an internal communication which mentions 7x A321’s for next year based at BHX and MAN. I’m sure there will be a statement soon from the company


7 Airbus 321 initially..... And more comming maybe

[OMAAbound]

Originally Posted by Cpt.Jason

From the others Jet2 forum here


A321’s for next summer
Ground crew for Jet2 have just received an internal communication which mentions 7x A321’s for next year based at BHX and MAN. I’m sure there will be a statement soon from the company


7 Airbus 321 initially..... And more comming maybe

Ex-TCX Aircraft one would suspect

OMAA

[Lepo]

British carrier Jet2.com in summer 2020 season plans to introduce Airbus A321 aircraft on additional routes, replacing 737-800. As of 11OCT19, planned additional A321 service as follows.

Birmingham – Kos eff 04MAY20 1 weekly (Overall 2 weekly)
London Stansted – Corfu 22JUL20 – 26AUG20 1 weekly (Overall 5 weekly)
London Stansted – Kefallinia 27MAY20 – 16SEP20 1 weekly (Overall 2 weekly)

British carrier Jet2.com earlier this month begin Airbus A321 operations at Manchester, currently scheduled for the month of October 2019. In summer 2020, the A321 will be operating various routes on regular basis, including the following.

Manchester – Antalya eff 30APR20 1 weekly (2 weekly from 26MAY20, 4 weekly 01JUL20 – 25SEP20)
Manchester – Bodrum eff 02OCT20 1 weekly
Manchester – Gran Canaria/Las Palmas eff 06JUL20 1 weekly
Manchester – Kos 26JUN20 – 25SEP20 1 weekly
Manchester – Lanzarote eff 29SEP20 1 weekly
Manchester – Reus 26JUN20 – 21SEP20 1 weekly
Manchester – Rhodes eff 04JUL20 1 weekly

[Cpt.Jason]

Any news on the pool???

Still no information (email) regarding the pool since first week of September.....

[Mr Good Cat]

Originally Posted by Cpt.Jason

Any news on the pool???

Still no information (email) regarding the pool since first week of September.....

There are only a couple of recruitment officers tasked with email updates and they’ll be flat out with the sudden requirement to find an extra 7 airbuses-worth of crews (with more airbuses to come).

Don’t take it personally. If you’re not rated on B737 or A320 you probably won’t be a priority due to the fact that you’ll take up more capacity in the sim and on line training.

Just hang in there and your time will come. Expansion won’t stop for a few years so there’ll be opportunities still.

[student88]

Please can someone remind me, didn't the Thomas Cook pilots vote against direct entry commands?

[Cpt.Jason]

Really?

They made that vote before?

Well... we have to wait, I know.... but the waiting period without information is the worst thing someone can have....

Time is running

Thanks anyway¡¡

[Cole Burner]

Originally Posted by student88

Please can someone remind me, didn't the Thomas Cook pilots vote against direct entry commands?

No, they didn't, and quite frankly asking the question this way is just sh*t stirring.

The question of direct entry commands at Thomas Cook never arose as there were always both sufficient high quality SFOs ready for promotion and training capacity to promote from within, in the required timescale.

[Meester proach]

Some companies do them ( mainly in massive expansion ), some don’t.

Obviously any FO/ SFO already in a company will be displeased.....but airlines exist to try and make money, they don’t give a damn about your career path

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Obviously any FO/ SFO already in a company will be displeased.....but airlines exist to try and make money, they don’t give a damn about your career path

Jet2 have always needed to take DEC’s, however promotion from within is always prioritised. Any SFO who has the required experience and has put themselves forward will be given their opportunity before a DEC.

[rotorwills]

Originally Posted by Johnny F@rt Pants

Jet2 have always needed to take DEC’s, however promotion from within is always prioritised. Any SFO who has the required experience and has put themselves forward will be given their opportunity before a DEC.

Not so. I know this is not always the case.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Not so. I know this is not always the case.

I will have to respectfully disagree. I know some people believe they have been usurped by DEC’s, but there will have been a reason, whether that be that someone wants a particular base, or whether it is down to training records etc etc.

[Daily Dalaman Dave]

Originally Posted by Cpt.Jason

Sufficient high quality SFOs

I hope you were trying to say high QUALIFIED SFO...... not qualiTy FO.

If not, I dont knwo WHY they, EX-Tcx, must have "HELP" to find a new Job if they are SOOOOOO good pilots and they had Sooooo high quality..... Why they need help and they need Direct Entry jobs???

Your sentence is amazing

Crikey, someone has taken a bitter pill

[2 Whites 2 Reds]

Originally Posted by Cpt.Jason

Sufficient high quality SFOs

I hope you were trying to say high QUALIFIED SFO...... not qualiTy FO.

If not, I dont knwo WHY they, EX-Tcx, must have "HELP" to find a new Job if they are SOOOOOO good pilots and they had Sooooo high quality..... Why they need help and they need Direct Entry jobs???

Your sentence is amazing

Were you pissed when you wrote this utter garbage?

[macdo]

Don't feed the Troll

[clvf88]

Originally Posted by 2 Whites 2 Reds

Were you pissed when you wrote this utter garbage?

I had the same thought!!!

[CABUS]

This comment reminds me of something a nurse said to me once while I was having an injection. It went along the lines of “just a little.....”