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Old 27th Apr 2018, 08:47
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Ryanair mobile contractor

Can anyone explain the contract or has experience as a Ryanair mobile contractor Captain
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 10:03
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Those of you who applied the last time, can you shed some light on what is involved in the online assessment please? What material should one study now in order to best prepare? Thanks!
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 16:34
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Originally Posted by Sucram View Post
Can anyone explain the contract or has experience as a Ryanair mobile contractor Captain
Thanks
hello,

it is a McGinley contract essentially. You will be assigned to a base for normally 1/2 months (sometimes more). Roster is 5/5 with no standbys, tax paid in Ireland.
—-All numbers are gross amounts—-
140.5€/h including the cost of recurrency training (sim and SEP training). Plus 20€/h for out of base allowance. It may have increased temporarily to 30€/h but as everything in Ryanair it can be withdrawn at their own will anytime.
You can not negotiate the base. How you get home it is on you, they don’t care if you have to travel 4 days.
The net salary out of the gross is then entirely up the the individual (cheating or not with the expenses to be deducted monthly through the mandatory Irish accountant).

It is a contractor “employment”, in other words, a disgrace for the industry, which must be stopped ASAP imho.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 07:59
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Thanks for that Full blast, obviously not the ideal long term career choice but it may actually suit me believe it or not!

Also is there free travel on Ryanair from your home base to temporarily assigned base?

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Old 28th Apr 2018, 13:23
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In many airlines (short haul low-cost excepted) you are away from home as it is. The 5/5 is quite appealing. The money you could cash as a floating pilot is good. If you're a commuter without prospect of getting the base you desire it's also a good choice. Doesn't matter if you commute to same place or different places. The downside is the commuting overall. They often sent you to the edge of the world and spending 15-17 hrs to get there wasn't unusual. On your day off of course. But it was free! Wohoo..
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 15:38
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It actually might suit me, I’ve just ended a 30+ year career with a big Airline and was looking for something for a couple of years and amongst others this is an option. I haven’t flown the 737 for nearly three years now tho, is three years since last operating as a 737 Capt the cut off point for Ryanair?........come to think of it Ryanair is even bigger!��

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Old 29th Apr 2018, 07:47
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5/5? more like 7/3 if you count the necessary positioning. 12K gross on a good month, that is way less than most airlines pay (gross) and with the benefit of always wondering when the knock in the door might come from the taxman. It seems to me like a whole load of hassle for not much money with a thoroughly unpleasant atmosphere to boot.
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 09:46
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It doesn’t work out at 5/5 I’m afraid, particularly in the winter when schedule reduces jump seat options. This sort of thing does suite a few but it can be very fatiguing and pretty unsocial with not quite the expected financial gain expected. It does offer FR superb operational flexibility. Good for them, not so good for you. If (and you will) be sent to destinations with poor connectivity it’s not uncommon for guys to overnight to get there due to any combination of factors from duty start/finish times and then connection. Remember FTL’s are a bit more restrictive these days and your legal rest between jumpseating and operating / vice versa. You will resort to buying tickets with other airlines, so factor that in. Wholesale roster changes can scupper you properly when rostered out of some place that has a major festival / event going on and the choice is last room going 300 bucks per night or taxi, drive, train 30km away! Factor these costs in. The novelty will wear off rapidly. 5/5 Can in the odd situation feel a bit more like an 7/3 to 8/2
Tax issues are a whole other box of frogs!
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 10:27
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Originally Posted by Elephant and Castle View Post
5/5? more like 7/3 if you count the necessary positioning. 12K gross on a good month, that is way less than most airlines pay (gross) and with the benefit of always wondering when the knock in the door might come from the taxman. It seems to me like a whole load of hassle for not much money with a thoroughly unpleasant atmosphere to boot.
Where do you get that number from? It's now 169€ + 30€ - 4.50€ for the sim, so 194.5€ /psbh. "A good month" which will typically see you do 100h therefore works out to 19450€ gross.
Depending on what country you're registered as a resident, you may or may not have to worry about the taxman. I for example don't, since claiming travel expenses is seen as a valid expense.
Which also means that my taxes and deductions is around 15-20% of my gross salary depending on how much you're accountant gives in overnight subsidence at the base where you currently are.
On average for the 11 months you work your gross is 15-16000€ / month, but a good month will be a lot more.
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Old 1st May 2018, 10:52
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850hrs * 194 is about 138k euro, which is £120k at todays money. Out of which you will pay hotac, which is tax deductible but that doesnt mean it is free.

A stansted capt is £127k for the same hours, but on a 5/4 not commuting, (a 5/5 floating skipper is really 7/3!), with paid sick pay, holiday pay, all hotac a pension and most importantly LEGAL! Now with also union backing.

This contracting must stop. Cancer on the entire industry.
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Old 3rd May 2018, 12:41
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850hrs * 194 is about 138k euro, which is £120k at todays money.
194.5 x 850 = €165 325 or £145 661 according to my calculations?
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Old 3rd May 2018, 23:48
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194.5 x 850 = €165 325 or £145 661 according to my calculations?
apologies you are correct. still not worth it in my eyes especially all the hassle of booking your own accomodation every week, transport, d/h, work out where the crewrooms are, eat rubbish food when out of base, and its pretty lonely...

not to mention the fear of the tax man banging on your door...
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Old 4th May 2018, 18:04
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what about the part time in Ryanair? Is it available?

thx
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Old 4th May 2018, 22:57
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Part time in ryanair is 5 on 13 off. But they often make you work a dew months a year full time.

Normally you have to find a colleague to roster share with
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Old 5th May 2018, 09:40
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Originally Posted by UAV689 View Post
Part time in ryanair is 5 on 13 off. But they often make you work a dew months a year full time.

Normally you have to find a colleague to roster share with
Thx. is it available right after you join or you have to work there like normal roaster for a year or two?
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Old 5th May 2018, 10:30
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Few months = 3 months? Assuming june/july/August? Do u get leave too and whats the net take home on the part time months?

Sounds doable!
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Old 20th Jul 2018, 21:42
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Has anyone got any more information on the 5/13 contract - sounds interesting?

Is it available on the day you join?
Is it still a permanent RYR contract or is it via McGinley?
Average monthly take home pay?
Can you request to work some days off for example to bump up the salary?
How does it work in reality - do you position the day before to a floating base wherever, then hopefully try to fly back on the fifth day?

Any commentary appreciated.
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Old 20th Jul 2018, 23:12
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They told me it is not available. Maybe after a year but it is not a promise.

Too bad, i would join instantly in this case.

i think is via mcginley only. Average pay depends on the hours you fly, since you are paid by the hour.
i am sure they would be happy to work some extra hours.
as mentioned above, they do not care how and when you get to the base, you just have to be there and do your shift.

in any case if you manage to negotiate something I am willing to share a job with you (they need two Capt to agree on that and split the job)

rgds
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Old 18th Nov 2018, 18:14
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Can someone tell if they allowed so far to put all positioning across EU by car ? does it work to put approx 12.000km per month as mileage "so far" ?
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Old 18th Nov 2018, 23:00
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Can someone tell if they allowed so far to put all positioning across EU by car ? does it work to put approx 12.000km per month as mileage "so far" ?
Are you planning to drive 12 000 km per month? If not, no you cannot (.. or rather, should not) claim it as business expense.

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